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Hi Cynthia!Do you know about kashka(all men must die)?What do you think about that?
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From: inquiry@usa.net (Linda Davis)
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I am conducting an investigation on a Cynthia Smathers of Atlanta, GA for a trial and lawsuit. I have already done an investigation on her background, medical/mental problems, employers, relatives, etc. I am now doing an investigation on her online activities.

If you have any derogatory information concerning Cynthia Smathers, please contact me by email. If you need to talk to me in person or on the phone, contact me by email first. This person may retaliate if she knows your identity, so I would advise that you do not post messages publicly.

The person I am investigating has has acknowledged the following:

1. married 3 times
2. former Mindspring employee
3. has a daughter
4. for employee of Presbyterian Church of America
5. member of online group called Heartless Bitches

Your identity will be kept strictly confidential and any negative information that is verifiable will be woth monetary compensation.

Address all email to:

inquiry@usa.net

Thanks, Linda Davis


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She also goes by the name Cynthia Armistead. Any info is appreciated.
Please email to inquiry@usa.net.

Linda Davis


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From: shad@ix.netcom.com (Steve Haddock)
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On Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:06:48 GMT, inquiry@usa.net (Linda Davis) wrote:

:If you have any derogatory information concerning Cynthia Smathers,
:please contact me by email. If you need to talk to me in person or on
:the phone, contact me by email first. This person may retaliate if she
:knows your identity, so I would advise that you do not post messages
:publicly.

I have tons of good info on her. She was involved in some BDSM group here locally, something like Anvil Dungeon. I have the info somewhere. I will contact you by email, as I know one of her ex husbands who thinks she is a witch.

Steve


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From: pdevereaux@juno.com (Pamela M. Devereaux)
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Cynthia,


Your reply to a post asking for information about you was probably a very poor decision. You are alleging that someone was harassing you but it looks like you are the one doing the harassing. I have a law degree, but do not practice law anymore as I have 2 children and decided to let my husband spend the countless hours in the courtroom.

If you have had this guy arrested, your broadcasting of all this information on the net will probably get everything dismissed. None of this prior history is admissible in a trial. This also displays an obsessive character trait and the fact that you are contacting this guys employer, the scouts and did all of this research is cause for him to charge you with stalking.

I would be very careful about anything else yo make public.

Pam Devereaux


On Wed, 18 Dec 1996 02:42:53 GMT, DoNotSpamMe@really.com (Cyn) wrote:


-Really now, Richard--was two arrests just not enough? And turning to online
-trasvestism--is this a clue as to your activities off the net, or just
-indulgence of a little secret fantasy? I guess with your record of multiple -felony convictions, you don't take upcoming trials for misdemeanors very
-seriously. One defense lawyer already dumped you--has the new one gotten rid of
-you yet, or you working on getting him to leave? Does he know about your little
-campaign and continued harassment? You've been threatening to sue me and
-MindSpring for months, but have yet to serve or file any papers. I'll be shocked
-if you ever find any lawyer fool enough to take an obvious nuisance suit by a
-convicted felon against a woman he has harassed (who does not, by the way, have
-a criminal record).


-Now you admit to at least attempting to illegally obtain information--as there
-is no legal way for you to obtain medical record or my credit history without my
-written authorization, and you definitely don't have that. Stupid, stupid,
-stupid.


-An actual investigator or lawyer would have given a phone number. The lack of
-one makes it all too obvious that you're trolling. As to retaliation, what could
-you be referring to? You managed to lose your MindSpring account AND your job at
-the CDC, despite being given second chances at both places, because you're too
-obsessed to cease your harassment of me, for no reason that I or anyone else has
-managed to discern. I suppose you have a lot of time on your hands, as finding a
-new job would be probably difficult for someone who was fired by a former
-employer who then swore out a warrant for your arrest on theft by taking and
-theft by receiving stolen property (convicted on both counts in Dekalb County).
-And those seven counts of felony credit card fraud on which you were convicted
-in Gwinnett County would also present problems for anyone who did a background
-check before hiring you, not to mentiion the Florida convictions--what was it,
-burglary and kidnapping? I haven't bothered to get copies of the Florida
-records. Is that fellow who came forward to speak for you in the Gwinnett case
-still your deacon and still so gullible as to think you're a "fine upstanding
-Christian" who'd just fallen onto hard times? Obviously the counseling he
-claimed you were receiving didn't help, and the work release program you were in
-for so long wasn't enough of a deterrent to have you avoiding further criminal
-activity.


-And yes, it was me who contacted the Boy Scouts of America to alert them to your
-criminal background. After they verified that you lied on your application to be
-an adult volunteer, they had no choice but to keep you from any further contact
-with Scouting. I must say I wouldn't want my child exposed to criminals like
-you, and I can't imagine the parents of those Cub Scouts in Lilburn would be too
-happy about it, either.


-That's all info I provided myself on my web pages, Hilly boy, so obviously I
-don't care who knows--especially about my daughter, who I'm very proud of
-(unlike the two children you couldn't bring yourself to mention on your "family"
-web pages--embarassed of your own divorce and the issue from that first
-marriage, I take it?). If you've found nothing else, you're not very good at
-this. I see you stopped tossing "she's fat!" around in an attempt to get a rise
-from me--I guess the fact that I had web pages about the size acceptance
-movement finally got through your thick skull? Judging from the pictures of you
-and your wife on your web site, you could both benefit from the size acceptance
-movement.


-You posted another message about me using the name Cynthia Armistead. Yep,
-that's one of my names--I haven't gotten around to getting my license and other
-stuff changed back to that name since getting divorced the third time. Again, no
-big deal--and as I provided that in my web pages, it isn't as if I were trying
-to mislead anyone.


-Anybody who is curious about the Heartless Bitches organization is welcome to
-pop over to their web site at http://www.heartless-bitches.com. Thanks for
-reminding me--I hadn't visited their site in a while and didn't realize t-shirts
-with the saying "Because we realize that Bitch means Being in Total Control,
-Honey!" and their logo on them. I figure you didn't quite notice the verbiage on
-the page in your eagerness to paint the organization as some sort of
-embarrassing affiliation, so here's one of the relevant bits: "Despite the
-statements of some of our more Bitter Heartless Bitches, Heartless Bitches
-International is NOT about Man-Hating. We don't discriminate against stupidity,
-arrogance, irresponsibility, bloated egos, or immaturity on the basis of -gender."


-If you actually wanted to know about my online activities, it would be pretty
-easy to find that I used to be a regular poster in this newsgroup,
-soc.support.fat-acceptance, alt.support.big-folks,
-rec.crafts.textiles.needlework, and alt.sysadmin.recovery. and the mindspring.*
-hierarchy. I've reduced my online presence due to a repetitive strain injury so
-there isn't much from me that is recent. I took down most of my web site to
-avoid getting a bill from MindSpring for excessive bandwidth use due to the
-horny boys responding to your forged prostitution and sex-wanted posts, and
-haven't taken the time to put it back up since then. I don't see much that could
-be considered negative there, but if you're seeking "derogatory information" I
-figure you'll probably attempt to claim that those forged posts from you were
-actually from me. I don't think there's anything else that would even be mildly
-annoying--and it's a simple matter to prove that I didn't make those posts, for
-anyone who can read headers. I normally use PGP for posts now, but I'm not at
-home at the moment and don't have my key with me.


-Monetary compensation from whom--you with the multiple court judgements in favor
-creditors you'd negotiated repayment agreements with, then reneged on
-subsequently whining in court that the resulting garnishment of your wages was
-what drove you to commit credit card fraud)? I've known since July where you
-live and where you used to work, Richard. I've no interest in meeting you and
-haven't gone to either of those places. I've never so much as dialed your phone
-number--although you have certainly dialed mine plenty of times, resulting in
-one of those arrests. Give it up. I never did anything to provoke you. I don't
-know why you formed this ridiculous obsession, but it's costing you a lot, isn't
-it? You're not in a strong position from which to throw stones, little man, and
-I'm not interested in anything your tiny little twisted mind creates, so why
-don't you just go away? If you continue, I'll be forced to file suit against you
-for damages, and I DO have proof.


-For anyone who missed earlier chapters in this dreary little drama Richard
-Hillyard needs to create to add some spice to his life, the twit made a lame
-attempt to mailbomb me from a MindSpring account and sent obscene email to my 6
-year old daughter for unknown reasons. He lost the MindSpring account, although
-they gave him one reprieve--he kept issuing forged cancels of the newsgroup
-messages of anyone who disagreed with him, though, so they were forced to cancel
-his account. That was several months after I had resigned from MindSpring
-(thanks to that RSI involving my hands/arms), so although he seems to think he
-was treated differently because he attacked a MindSpring employee, he's quite
-mistaken. He then posted forged messages in several newsgroups instructing
-those seeking prostitutes to email me for "Olympic specials," after which I received
-hundreds of emails from prospective "customers." I finally sent each of them a
-polite "no, thank you" letting them know who they had to thank for the little
-prank. Hilly boy then forged more newsgroup messages to many sex-related
-newsgroups, distributing pornography in my name (the pictures were of other
-women, altered to bear my own email address) and messages seeking sex. Again, I
-had to send email to the respondents explaining that I didn't post the messages
-or the pictures, that I wasn't in those pictures, and that they were welcome to
-contact Hillyard to thank him for wasting their time. As he was fool enough to
-use the CDC's computer network for some of his fun, he lost his job as a
-contractor (through a firm named Orkand) after he ignored one warning not to
-further misuse government property. Hillyard tried posting forged prostitution
-advertisements again in October, after he was arrested for simple assault and
-again for harassing phone calls. He's obviously a pitiful, unbalanced man who
-doesn't really have a life off the net, or he wouldn't have so much time to put
-into this obsession.


-I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that Hillyard has cancelled this
-newsgroup post--in fact, considering his past habits of forge-cancelling posts
-from anyone who disagrees with him, I surprised that the other messages in this
-thread have survived.


-Cynthia Smathers
-cyn@technomom.com


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In article <58velc$q3h@camel0.mindspring.com> Holger wrote:
>
>->I am conducting an investigation on a Cynthia Smathers of Atlanta, GA
>->for a trial and lawsuit. I have already done an investigation on her
>->background, medical/mental problems, employers, relatives, etc. I am
>->now doing an investigation on her online activities.
>
>Her online activities are usually very intelligent and helpful.
>
>Holger
>

I personally think this woman is terribly sick and needs help. She barges into conversations on the net that have nothing to do with her and plays GOD all the time. I have had arguments with her in the past in various newsgroups. She thinks that she is a doctor with all of the posts she places about how fat people are not to blame for their weight. I was overweight and found that when I got off my lazy butt and exercized that I lost weight and lowered my body fat. She would hear of nothing like that. I think she has said in the past that she is a size 24. Well to me that is disgusting.

If she is so almighty and perfect, I would like for her to answer this for everyone.

Why does she have a daughter, but her husband has custody of her?

This is unheard of. A daughter needs to be with her mother, but for some reason this particular daughter is not. Either the mother has her priorities screwed up big time or she is a "basket case". I hope this guy she is going after brings this up in court. I would in a heart beat.

She use to have all this crap on her home page but she obviously took it down to hide all this info from anyone who may face her in court. If you do a dejanews search on her you can find plenty of stuff she has posted in followups from others. She is far from perfect.

If I knew where to send money, I would to anyone she might be going after. She is a very sick woman.

Larry


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From: beasley6@ix.netcom.com (Tim Beasley)
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On Wed, 18 Dec 1996 19:08:40 GMT, bigred@mindspring.com (24 Fighting Chickens) wrote:

;Oh, lookie. A chance to pull out my psych degree and wave it around
;in everyone's faces! Excellent.
;
; >I personally think this woman is terribly sick and needs help.
;

And Mr. 24 Fighting Chickens is so smart. I think that you and Cynthia are both chicken shit. She is a beligerant slut and you must be in love with her.

;
; > She barges into
; >conversations on the net that have nothing to do with her and
plays GOD all the time.
;
;Gee, that would be strange in here. Gee, no one has ever barged into
;a conversation that didn't involve them personally on usenet before.

Oh I have seen you and Smathers barge into conversations that had nothing to do with you. Like you did in this conversation. You barged right in with your self-righteousness and spewed your crap everywhere. Well my crap has as much credibility as yours. What makes you sich a good judge of character.

; >I have had arguments with her in the past in various newsgroups.
;
;Still reeling, huh? When do you think you will stop sulking and stand
;up and be a man?

I'm a man and will stand up to you anyday.

; She thinks that she
; >is a doctor with all of the posts she places about how fat people
are not to blame
; >for their weight. I was overweight and found that when I got off
my lazy butt and
; >exercized that I lost weight and lowered my body fat. She would
hear of nothing like
; >that. I think she has said in the past that she is a size 24. Well
to me that is
; >disgusting.
;
;Name calling. Besides, none of us who has never seen her in person
;really even knows that she is a woman, much less overweight. She
;might be Dean using his computer skills to transexualize himself
;electronically for all we know. It's a written medium, and there's
;just no point in bringing up anything that doesn't appear in print.

What an idiot. You have never met her and here you are defending her to know end. You even admit that you do not know if she is a woman or not.

;> She is far from perfect.
;
;So are you. Take a look-see at some of your grammar above.

Couldn't answer the charge that she is not fit to have custody of her kid so you have to find typos to make fun of.

;;24 Fighting Chickens

I eat chicken for breakfast every morning.


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On Wed, 18 Dec 1996 18:56:38 GMT, bigred@mindspring.com (24 Fighting Chickens) wrote:

;Stalking is a physical act. The worst that Ms. Smathers could be ;charged with would be defamation of character (a civil case), libel
or
;slander (civil). The offended person would have to bring suit, and
;then prove that she was both wrong and intended to do harm.

Not true. If Smathers takes the truth and intentionally seeks out associates of someone and gives them this information for the sole intent to harm him then she is in big trouble. If she does it more than once, this is considered stalking as well.

Tim


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From: beasley6@ix.netcom.com (Tim Beasley)
Newsgroups: atl.general
Subject: Re: Request Information on CYNTHIA SMATHERS
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 19:23:13 GMT
18 Dec 14:23 EST Organization: Netcom
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On Wed, 18 Dec 1996 19:00:00 GMT, bigred@mindspring.com (24 Fighting Chickens) wrote:

;Furthermore, the anonymous remailer that you used to send this hurts
;your credibility.
;
;From your headers, whoever you are:
;
;X-001: This message was forwarded by an automated remailing service.
;X-002: No attempt was made to verify the sender's identity.
;X-003: Please report misuse to <abuse@replay.com>
;
;24 FIghting Chickens
;

Her message also has her name and her email address. Looks like she used a remailer, but not anonymously. You on the other hand hide behind a nickname. Sending any type of message electronically under an alias in the state of Georgia is a crime under the Internet Police HB1630 bill.

So in other words, you have no credibility.

Tim


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From: beasley6@ix.netcom.com (Tim Beasley)
Newsgroups: atl.general
Subject: Re: Request Information on CYNTHIA SMATHERS
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 20:00:25 GMT
18 Dec 15:00 EST Organization: Netcom
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On Wed, 18 Dec 1996 19:54:42 GMT, bigred@mindspring.com (24 Fighting Chickens) wrote:

;On Wed, 18 Dec 1996 19:08:41 GMT, Dennis wrote: ;
;
; >It certainly seems as if your posts have been canceled, Cynthia.
; >Undoubtedly by your favorite forge-canceller.
; >
; >Please repost.
;
;Yes, they've been cancelled by a cancellation bot named "Coward."
;
;24 Fighting Chickens
;

Oh, you admit you cancelled some posts?

Tim


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From: beasley6@ix.netcom.com (Tim Beasley)
Newsgroups: atl.general
Subject: Re: Request Information on CYNTHIA SMATHERS
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 20:14:35 GMT
18 Dec 15:14 EST Organization: Netcom
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On Wed, 18 Dec 1996 20:15:42 GMT, bigred@mindspring.com (24 Fighting Chickens) wrote:

;But you are wrong as well!!! First of all, the person who brings suit
;must be able to afford a lawyer, and there are very few people in
;Norcross with $20,000.00 laying around for a civil suit. Second, if
;that person demonstrated that they were interceding to protect small
;children from someone who might be a drug-dealing pedophile, or if
;they were trying to point out that a federal crime were being
;comitted, then I think they'd win the suit. You never know with a
;jury...but that is probably the way that it would go.
;
;-24 Fighting Chickens.
;

Well chicken neck, she never mentioned drug or child related offenses in her post.

;they were trying to point out that a federal crime were being
;comitted

That should be that a federal crime WAS being committed. A Georgia education is obviously better than an Alabama education. But who knows, you are probably a dropout.

Tim


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From: beasley6@ix.netcom.com (Tim Beasley)
Newsgroups: atl.general
Subject: Re: Request Information on CYNTHIA SMATHERS
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 20:17:41 GMT
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On Wed, 18 Dec 1996 20:15:10 GMT, it's.in@the.sig (Dennis) wrote:

;
;No, he didn't, but you did, as usual. Your shit is still as weak as
;ever, Rick.
;
;Dennis
;halide@mindspring.com
;'as in chloride, boride and iodide'

Hey Sherlock. My name is Tim. And nothing I do is weak.

Tim


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From: beasley6@ix.netcom.com (Tim Beasley)
Newsgroups: atl.general
Subject: Re: Request Information on CYNTHIA SMATHERS
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 20:30:33 GMT
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On Wed, 18 Dec 1996 20:38:53 GMT, bigred@mindspring.com (24 Fighting Chickens) wrote:

;On Wed, 18 Dec 1996 20:14:35 GMT, Tim Beasley wrote:
;
; >That should be that a federal crime WAS being committed.
;
;If you upgrade to a double wide now, you'll save 20% and have a new
;spot to put up your Vic 20 that you send these messages from.
;
;24 Fighting Chickens

Once again, you have no defense for the fact that you are illiterate.

Tim


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From: pdevereaux@juno.com (Pamela M. Devereaux)
Newsgroups: atl.general
Subject: Re: Request Information on Cynthia Smathers
Date: 18 Dec 1996 21:55:34 +0100
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-Well, you must have been an ambulance chaser, not a *good* lawyer, to
-be giving out such flakey, off-the-cuff advice. First of all, I doubt
-you are an attorney at all, since probably an attorney could be held
-liable for the advice that they spew in public where everyone can read
-it, and you'd think an attorney would be the first one to think of
-that.


I did not give out any advice that I could be liable for.

-Secondly, posting information about the arrests on the internet will
-probably not get anything dismissed.

Charges can be very easy to dismiss for the above actions.

-Prior history not admissable? That will be up to the judge, not you,
-and if you had ever even served jury duty in a criminal case, you'd
-know that.

That is never up to the judge. If he were to allow prior history, any conviction wuld be overturned on appeal.

-Furthermore, when someone is working for the Federal Government, and
-they are abusing the network there and the property of the United
-States of America, and someone points that out to the agency involved,
-that is not stalking. Furthermore, if this person then contacted that
-person's church, community organizations, and the Scouts, then they
-are not *stalking* - again, an attorney would know that.

The stalking statute is very broad, and can easily be interpreted to include all of the above actions.
-Stalking is a physical act.

This is totally false.

There is a good reason I use a remailer. And I do not use one anonymously. I have read only access to usenet. I cannot directly post messages there. This is one of the only remailers that allow you to post to usenet through email.

Pam Devereaux

 

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