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From: Fig@mindspring.com (Fig)
Newsgroups: mindspring.discussion
Subject: Re: Richard Hillyard - Response to Ms. Smathers
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 22:31:04 GMT
Organization: Let's put a Hippy in the White House
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esa@kaamos.mindspring.com (Esa Ahola) wrote:

>Tom Gauldin <scoundrl@mindspring.com> wrote:

>> that Mindspring will be able to assist her in her defense, since
>> they probably maintain copies of e-mail generated by the subscribers.


>We absolutely positively do not.

>Like any mail system, we maintain relatively short-lived logs

>recording the sending and receiving of mail, but not the contents
>of individual messages.

>Shudder.

>--
>Esa Ahola esa@mindspring.com
>MindSpring Enterprises, Inc. 404.815.0770

Esa,

I believe someone has cancelled my prior post to this thread which I made earlier today. I certainly haven't.

It is now 6:20 p.m. and the post I made at 10:59 a.m. this morning is coming back as marked with a red X in Free Agent as _article no longer available.

I also notice that two prior post from Undre, as well as one prior one from Norbert also are coming back as "not available"

Wassup with that?

Later,
Fig


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From: esa@kaamos.mindspring.com (Esa Ahola)
Newsgroups: mindspring.discussion
Subject: Re: Richard Hillyard - Response to Ms. Smathers
Date: 13 Jul 1996 18:45:29 -0400
Organization: MindSpring Enterprises, Inc.
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> I believe someone has cancelled my prior post to this thread which I
> made earlier today. I certainly haven't.

You are correct. Several postings have apparently been forge-cancelled. We'll investigate.

--
Esa Ahola esa@mindspring.com
MindSpring Enterprises, Inc. 404.815.0770


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From: Fig@mindspring.com (Fig)
Newsgroups: mindspring.discussion
Subject: Re: Richard Hillyard - Response to Ms. Smathers
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 23:32:52 GMT
Organization: Let's put a Hippy in the White House
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esa@kaamos.mindspring.com (Esa Ahola) wrote:
>You are correct. Several postings have apparently been forge-cancelled.
>We'll investigate.
Esa,

Also check out a post from Miseries which he posted 7/12/96 2:58 a.m. That one is also coming back as unavailable.

Where are you Mr. Cancelbunny......
Hope you covered your tracks well.

Later,
Fig

>--
>Esa Ahola esa@mindspring.com
>MindSpring Enterprises, Inc. 404.815.0770


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From: Todd Graham Lewis <tlewis@mindspring.com>
Newsgroups: mindspring.discussion
Subject: Re: Richard Hillyard - Response to Ms. Smathers
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 19:42:53 -0400
Organization: MindSpring Enterprises
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On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Fig wrote:

> Also check out a post from Miseries which he posted 7/12/96 2:58 a.m.
> That one is also coming back as unavailable.
>
> Where are you Mr. Cancelbunny......
> Hope you covered your tracks well.

Just so everyone is clear on this point, I'd like to quote from Mindspring's terms of service.

Impersonation:
Posting to newsgroups or sending e-mail under a fictitious name.

In order to cancel an article not your own, then you must send a message impersonating the author of that article. This is a violation of the terms of service, and it is also very impolite.

If you suspect that your posts or others' have been inappropriately canceled, then the appropriate thing to do is report it to mindspring. We sincerely frown upon this sort of behaviour.

_____________________________________________________________________
Todd Graham Lewis Core Engineering Mindspring Enterprises
tlewis@mindspring.com (Standard Disclaimers) (800) 719 4664, x2804


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From: subhuman@mindspring.com (Undre Daugg)
Newsgroups: mindspring.discussion
Subject: Re: Attention Impersonator!
Date: 14 Jul 1996 16:07:26 GMT
Organization: Malevolence Inc.
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In article <4sb18f$6fu@kaamos.mindspring.com>, esa@kaamos.mindspring.com says...

>Yes, in the control.cancel pseudo-newsgroup. Beware, it's huge -- 15% of

Well, if it means finding out who hath desecrated the sacred and honorable name of "Undre Daugg" I wont mind waiting a few minutes for the headers to download and another minute to search "undre daugg".

>USENET traffic (by article count) is cancels. It also expires quickly (but
>I have saved copies of the forged cancels.)

Esa, I would appreciate it if you would forward the control message which blasphemized my sacred name to me. We Subhumans are not fond of posers to begin with, but when posers attempt to wear our sheep skins, doom must be rendered.

*************************************************************************
Undre Daugg of Subhuman Enterprises
*************************************************************************
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From: essawy@mindspring.com (Hussein Essawy)
Newsgroups: mindspring.discussion
Subject: Re: Attention Impersonator!
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 12:48:19 -0400
Organization: ...
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In article <4sb7p1$uni@mule1.mindspring.com>, subhuman@mindspring.com (Undre Daugg) wrote:

> In article <essawy-1407961211410001@nntp.mindspring.com>,
> essawy@mindspring.com says...
>
> >I think that the person assigned 168.121.127.70 might be able to shed
> >some light on this.
>
> Why do you say that?
>

If you had the patience to download the control messages, you would have reached the same conclusion.

Incidently that same user is responsible for your post being cancelled!

Have a good day,
Hussein


--


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From: subhuman@mindspring.com (Undre Daugg)
Newsgroups: mindspring.discussion
Subject: Re: Attention Impersonator!
Date: 14 Jul 1996 17:15:23 GMT
Organization: Malevolence Inc.
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In article <31e925fe.54243007@news>, ntaylor@onebabyzebra.com says...

>Oh my! >Nobody's *that* stupid. How easy is it forge an IP address? Anyone?
>There doesn't need to be a drumroll here. Behold:

uhm, I would venture to guess that it would be extremely difficult for an a dial-up user since that user cannot perform any magick with inews. Even someone w/ a shell and an ability to use inews would have to know alot about everything to do this.

>From: hillyard@mindspring.com (Richard Hillyard)
>Newsgroups: mindspring.discussion
>Subject: Re: Richard Hillyard - Response to Ms. Smathers
>Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 13:58:15 GMT
>Organization: MindSpring Enterprises
>NNTP-Posting-Host: user-168-121-127-70.dialup.mindspring.com
>X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99e/32.201
>perplexing or have we found our answer?,


Richard Hillyard, a loving husband and father, devoted KrIsChuN, and all around nice guy, has appearently utilized the powers of darkness to accomplish a most diabolic task. I guess when God proves to be a failure, satan is always there to lend a helping hand. Richard, not only did you sell your God out for selfish reasons and turn to satan, you also pissed me off.

As I said, richards originally post was nothing more than a diversion to take the attention off of him and place it back on Cynthia. I now strongly believe that he did in fact send dirty, filthy, perverse sex mail to Cynthia.

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Undre Daugg of Subhuman Enterprises
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http://www.mindspring.com./~subhuman/
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From: halide@mindspring.com (D Gordon)
Newsgroups: mindspring.discussion
Subject: Re: Hillyard is truly a sore loser
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 04:31:26 GMT
Organization: or lack of . . .
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On Fri, 19 Jul 1996 02:27:49 GMT, mbarnett@atl.mindspring.com (Mark Barnett) knee-jerked this stuff:

>Nice to see everyone having fun at my expense. Well let's set the
>record straight once and for all. Whoever wants to believe me can and
>if you do not, so be it.

[ MAJOR snip to a load of self serving tripe. ]

>If you read this thanks.
>
>Rick Hillyard
>hillyard@inetnow.net
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Just in case you did not see this on alt.general
>
>
>
>Regards
>Mark Barnett
>Atlanta Area Aquarium Association
>http://www.inetnow.net/~hillyard/aaaa.html

Mark,

It is understandable that you would want to defend your friend, particularly the one who turned you on to Mindspring, from what you probably consider unfair criticism and termination of his account. However, his original "apology" posted to this group (and certain persons in it) was in no way, shape, or form conciliatory, especially in light of his continued harassment of Mindspring members. So, I doubt if you will find much sympathy in this group for his situation. If you doubt the tone of his apology, read it, as I'm sure it's still sits on this server. This latest apology smacks of someone who realizes he has lost a good thing and would like to make inroads back to a superior service. I suspect he is/will be dissatisfied with his present account before too long. Remember, Richard Hillyard was given a second chance to get his "ducks" (did I say that?) in a row, and blew that opportunity as well. He has never really taken responsibility for his account and the activities that originated from it. Whether he, or his son, or his daughter's friend is the culprit doesn't matter, *he* is the responsible account holder. The fact that he works for a firm contracting with the CDC to manage its' computer systems makes the situation worse; this guy is NOT unfamiliar with computers. He easily could have password protected his system when he became aware of the problems coming from his account. Apparently he made little or no effort to conceal his new password issued to him by Mindspring from the 'youngsters'.

Rick Hillyard got what he deserved.

BTW, see Richard Turners' excellent post regarding Rick Hillyards' headers in atl.general, if it hasn't magically 'disappeared' by now. Mr. Hillyard is not as innocent as he would have Mr. Barnett believe.

Been lurking and not fooled,
Dennis Gordon
halide@mindspring.com
**That's halide, as in chloride, boride, and iodide**


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From: ntaylor@onebabyzebra.com (Norbert Taylor)
Newsgroups: mindspring.discussion
Subject: Re: Hillyard cancelling messages on alt.general
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 19:51:23 GMT
Organization: Daisy Hill Puppy Farm, The
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On Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:10:25 -0400, essawy@mindspring.com (Hussein Essawy) wrote:

>I would let him be, he appears to be a pitifull human being, not worth
>troubling with.

Yep, either that or Hillyard's comrades at the CDC are a very impresionable set.

I have a rather withdrawn role in all of this, but something strikes me as terribly odd about all this. I mean either Hillyard's guilty of _something_ or he's the most unlucky man in Atlanta.

Taking his story at face value for a second: He has been "blessed" with a wayward child run amok on USENET *and* some puckish colleagues from the CDC who, without any provocation or instruction, went a-trolling in atl.general after hearing his sob-story. Odd, how the habit of forge-cancelling -- something that cooked his account's goose here at MindSpring -- resurfaced in atl.general. Odder still that there would suddenly be security problems with MindSpring's web server which these CDC "colleagues" *conincedentally* noticed and trumpeted? I'm not calling the man the Prince of Darkness, but something just isn't right.

Maybe he's a perverse Midas and all he touches turns evil. I dunno, but I've had my fill of it -- time for other happy subjects. <g>

-n
---
"The news today will be the movies for tomorrow"
- Arthur Lee


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From: halide@mindspring.com (D. Gordon)
Newsgroups: atl.general
Subject: Ah! the Return of Richard Hillyard! was: Re: ISPs in Atlanta
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 19:04:57 GMT
Organization: or lack of . . .
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On Wed, 14 Aug 1996 19:42:45 GMT, ufgator@interamp.com wrote:

>>On 5 Aug 1996 17:12:02 -0700, czino@primenet.com (Charlie Zino) wrote:
>>>
>>>Company name is Primenet Services for the Internet, primenet for
>>>short.
>>
>>(snip)
>>
>>Mr. Zino, I think the poster probably got your information the first time.
>>Posting it 3 times is a bit much.
>>
>>Cyn
>>technomom@mindspring.com
>>http://www.mindspring.com/~cynthia
>>I love my attitude problem!
>>
>>Finger for disclaimers & such
>
>Please limit your policing to the Mindspring groups.

And with a shiny, NEW Interramp account, too! How utterly sneaky! That's one way to get back into Mindspring.

Still have a hard on for Cynthia and Trent Woodruff, too, I see!

Welcome back to the fold, Richard.

Dennis
halide@mindspring.com
'as in chloride, boride, and iodide'


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From: Todd Graham Lewis <tlewis@mindspring.com>
Newsgroups: atl.general
Subject: Re: PEDOPHILE SODOMITES; Hillyard & Company on the next Geraldo
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 18:28:24 -0400
Organization: MindSpring Enterprises
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Whoever posted this message, it appears to have been canceled by some nameless interramp account.

Could you please repost it?

__
Todd Graham Lewis Linux! Core Engineering
Mindspring Enterprises tlewis@mindspring.com (800) 719 4664, x2804


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From: Todd Graham Lewis <tlewis@mindspring.com>
Newsgroups: atl.general
Subject: Re: PEDOPHILE SODOMITES; Hillyard & Company on the next Geraldo
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 23:49:27 -0400
Organization: MindSpring Enterprises
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Will do, Cynthia!

Thanks for the message!

On Fri, 16 Aug 1996 Cyn@.MISSING-HOST-NAME. wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Aug 1996 18:28:24 -0400, Todd Graham Lewis
> <tlewis@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> >Whoever posted this message, it appears to have been canceled by some
> >nameless interramp account.
> >
> >Could you please repost it?
>
> I would be particularly interested, myself. In fact, if anyone has any
> posts or cancel messages coming from a CDC IP address that appear to be
> from Hillyard or his cronies, I'd appreciate having them forwarded to
> technomom@mindspring.com.


__
Todd Graham Lewis


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From: Cyn
Newsgroups: atl.general
Subject: Hillyard's terroristic threats
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 08:09:05 GMT
Organization: Not just a bitch--the Alpha Bitch!
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I just received the following email in response to my request for information regarding posts made from a CDC IP address. I doubt this message will be here long before Hillyard cancels it again--but I'll simply keep reposting it. I did file a police report about the threats in the email.

Cyn

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From: cyn's_nightmare@fatbitch.com (Fat Slut Hater)
To: technomom@mindspring.com
Subject: Re: PEDOPHILE SODOMITES; Hillyard & Company on the next Geraldo
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 07:20:26 GMT
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On Fri, 16 Aug 1996 03:38:10 GMT, in atl.general you wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Aug 1996 18:28:24 -0400, Todd Graham Lewis
><tlewis@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>Whoever posted this message, it appears to have been canceled by some
>>nameless interramp account.
>>
>>Could you please repost it?
>
>I would be particularly interested, myself. In fact, if anyone has any
>posts or cancel messages coming from a CDC IP address that appear to be
>from Hillyard or his cronies, I'd appreciate having them forwarded to
>technomom@mindspring.com.
>
>Thanks,
>Cyn
>technomom@mindspring.com
>http://www.mindspring.com/~cynthia
>I love whom I please--and vice versa!
>
>Finger for disclaimers & such

Hi you Fat Bitch. I'm not Hillyard, I'm worse. In fact, I'm your worse nightmare. I know where you live you ugly fat slut. I followed you home from Mailboxes etc. Now we will have some fun bitch.

Let's get it on!


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From: Cyn
Newsgroups: mindspring.discussion
Subject: Hillyard's terroristic threats
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 08:12:06 GMT
Organization: Alpha Bitch
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I just received the following email in response to my request for information regarding posts made from a CDC IP address. I doubt this message will be here long before Hillyard cancels it again--but I'll simply keep reposting it. I did file a police report about the threats in the email. I'm posting it (separately) to mindspring.discussion. I won't, however, be surprised if he cancels it here, too (as interramp users do have access to this group).

Cyn

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From: cyn's_nightmare@fatbitch.com (Fat Slut Hater)
To: technomom@mindspring.com
Subject: Re: PEDOPHILE SODOMITES; Hillyard & Company on the next Geraldo
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 07:20:26 GMT
Message-ID: <3214206b.1073480@pop3.interamp.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960815182148.244Z-100000@reflections.mindspring.com> <3213eced.1824837@news.atl.mindspring.com>
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On Fri, 16 Aug 1996 03:38:10 GMT, in atl.general you wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Aug 1996 18:28:24 -0400, Todd Graham Lewis
><tlewis@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>Whoever posted this message, it appears to have been canceled by some
>>nameless interramp account.
>>
>>Could you please repost it?
>
>I would be particularly interested, myself. In fact, if anyone has any
>posts or cancel messages coming from a CDC IP address that appear to be
>from Hillyard or his cronies, I'd appreciate having them forwarded to
>technomom@mindspring.com.
>
>Thanks,
>Cyn
>technomom@mindspring.com
>http://www.mindspring.com/~cynthia
>I love whom I please--and vice versa!
>
>Finger for disclaimers & such


Hi you Fat Bitch. I'm not Hillyard, I'm worse. In fact, I'm your worse nightmare. I know where you live you ugly fat slut. I followed you home from Mailboxes etc. Now we will have some fun bitch.

Let's get it on!


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From: Cyn
Newsgroups: atl.general
Subject: Re: Hillyard's terroristic threats
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 08:27:04 GMT
Organization: Not just a bitch--the Alpha Bitch!
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See? It was mere minutes before the article was forge cancelled, from interramp.com, by ufgator@interramp.com, who is Richard Hillyard.

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:Subject: cmsg cancel <3213eced.1824837@news.atl.mindspring.com>
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On Fri, 16 Aug 1996 08:09:05 GMT, Cyn wrote:

:I just received the following email in response to my request for
:information regarding posts made from a CDC IP address. I doubt this
:message will be here long before Hillyard cancels it again--but I'll simply
:keep reposting it. I did file a police report about the threats in the
:email.
:
:Cyn
:
:Return-Path: cyn's_nightmare@fatbitch.com
:Received: from relay.mindspring.com (relay.mindspring.com
:[204.180.128.162]) by borg.mindspring.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id
:DAA16152 for <technomom@mindspring.com>; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 03:20:16 -0400
:Received: from interramp.com (pop3.interramp.com [38.8.32.2]) by
:relay.mindspring.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA08536 for
:<technomom@mindspring.com>; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 03:20:19 -0400 (EDT)
:Received: from ip10.an4.atlanta2.ga.psi.net by interramp.com
:(8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-pop-local)
: id DAA19430; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 03:20:18 -0400
:From: cyn's_nightmare@fatbitch.com (Fat Slut Hater)
:To: technomom@mindspring.com
:Subject: Re: PEDOPHILE SODOMITES; Hillyard & Company on the next Geraldo
:Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 07:20:26 GMT
:Message-ID: <3214206b.1073480@pop3.interamp.com>
:References:
:<Pine.LNX.3.91.960815182148.244Z-100000@reflections.mindspring.com>
:<3213eced.1824837@news.atl.mindspring.com>
:In-Reply-To: <3213eced.1824837@news.atl.mindspring.com>
:X-Mailer: Yes
:X-UIDL: 8da0d516863a59f1b91a70f9da7d17fb
:
:On Fri, 16 Aug 1996 03:38:10 GMT, in atl.general you wrote:
:
::On Thu, 15 Aug 1996 18:28:24 -0400, Todd Graham Lewis
::<tlewis@mindspring.com> wrote:
::
:::Whoever posted this message, it appears to have been canceled by some
:::nameless interramp account.
:::
:::Could you please repost it?
::
::I would be particularly interested, myself. In fact, if anyone has any
::posts or cancel messages coming from a CDC IP address that appear to be
::from Hillyard or his cronies, I'd appreciate having them forwarded to
::technomom@mindspring.com.
::
::Thanks,
::Cyn
::technomom@mindspring.com
::http://www.mindspring.com/~cynthia
::I love whom I please--and vice versa!
::
::Finger for disclaimers & such
:
:Hi you Fat Bitch. I'm not Hillyard, I'm worse. In fact, I'm your worse
:nightmare. I know where you live you ugly fat slut. I followed you
:home from Mailboxes etc. Now we will have some fun bitch.
:
:Let's get it on!
:
:


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From: reid@photodude.com (PhotoDude)
Newsgroups: mindspring.local.atlanta
Subject: Hillyard's Home Page....it's a doozy!
Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 20:26:47 GMT
Organization: PhotoDude Labs(tm)
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A New Year comes around, but some things never change. Some people *still* just don't get it....

The following is a copy of my post in atl.general, following up to someone posting a binary of Richard Hillard's alleged web page:

>[Saved as file: C:\MSPRING2\rick.htm]

Wow!

Pretty blatant, I would say. For those who aren't familiar with HTML, whoever wrote the document at:

http://www.afn.org/~afn30721

purporting to be Richard Hillyard's Home Page, used a trick to hide a message. Often, in order to "persuade" search engines of a site's importantance, HTML authors will place repeated "keywords" on the page as text, but invisible to the average viewer. This is done by using the <FONT> attribute to make the color of the text the same as the color of the background, thus making it invisible to most folks.

In this case, here is the quote from the source HTML of the above URL:

<FONT COLOR="#ffffFF"><SMALL>Cynthia Smathers is a Sicko, a bitch, and a very unstable individual!</FONT>

I checked the source of the actual page I downloaded from the server against the version of the page posted here, and the only difference is the background color, which makes the offensive message readable.

The HTML author in question is not only sick, they are stupid enough to document it in a publicly downloadable manner.

I expect this post to be cancelled any minute, but it will be back. And you can't cancel the HTML document I, and many others, now have on their hard drive.
__________________________________________________
PhotoDude~~aka~~Reid Stott~~e-mail: reid@photodude.com
A Photo Gallery with an Attitude....over 175 photos online
including *1996 Olympics* and *Fuji's Feline Tour* at:
http://www.mindspring.com/~fotodude


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From: reid@photodude.com (PhotoDude)
Newsgroups: mindspring.local.atlanta
Subject: Re: Hillyard's Home Page....it's a doozy!
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 04:43:28 GMT
Organization: PhotoDude Labs(tm)
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(Mary) emitted electrons which upon decoding said:

>The page has been changed since I viewed that document at is actually
>location-- the http above this afternoon.

Gee, I'm so surprised....

>Cyn, I have saved a copy of the page as it was this afternoon if you
>need. I will also certify what I saw.

Likewise, as I figured the page would be quickly doctored.
__________________________________________________
PhotoDude~~aka~~Reid Stott~~e-mail: reid@photodude.com
A Photo Gallery with an Attitude....over 175 photos online
including *1996 Olympics* and *Fuji's Feline Tour* at:
http://www.mindspring.com/~fotodude


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From: miseries@mindspring.com (¤Keeper of Miseries¤)
Newsgroups: mindspring.local.atlanta
Subject: Re: Hillyard's Home Page....it's a doozy!
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 08:31:51 GMT
Organization: MindSpring Enterprises, Inc.
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On Wed, 01 Jan 1997 20:26:47 GMT, reid@photodude.com (PhotoDude) wrote:

-><FONT COLOR="#ffffFF"><SMALL>Cynthia Smathers is a Sicko, a bitch,
->and a very unstable individual!</FONT>

Hillyard reminds me of those scary movies about stalking...

...but what makes it very eerie is that this is REAL!

How come nothing is ever done about this [in a legal manner]?

--Miseries


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From: miseries@mindspring.com (¤Keeper of Miseries¤)
Newsgroups: mindspring.discussion
Subject: Re: ATL.GENERAL---> Someone flooding it with cancels?
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 08:33:53 GMT
Organization: MindSpring Enterprises, Inc.
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On Tue, 31 Dec 1996 02:15:37 GMT, (Mary) wrote:

->Do you like his latest post from, of all names, 100 Miseries?

Yeah, that one was pretty good.. I think he's just trying to show me that he hasn't forgotten about me. That's okay, though. He can keep his sick little fantasies to himself as long as he never brings them to me personally.

That sicko!

--Miseries


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From: efp@mindspring.com (Eric Palmer)
Newsgroups: mindspring.local.atlanta
Subject: Re: Hillyard's Home Page....it's a doozy!
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 12:37:37 GMT
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On Thu, 02 Jan 1997 08:31:51 GMT, miseries@mindspring.com (¤Keeper of Miseries¤) wrote:

>
>Hillyard reminds me of those scary movies about stalking...

>...but what makes it very eerie is that this is REAL!

>How come nothing is ever done about this [in a legal manner]?

>--Miseries

THink how Cyn feels and all the others that get harrassedstalked. Its real scary.


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From: bigred@mindspring.com (24 Fighting Chickens)
Newsgroups: mindspring.local.atlanta
Subject: Re: Hillyard's Home Page....it's a doozy!
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 14:20:55 GMT
Organization: *
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On Thu, 02 Jan 1997 04:36:57 GMT, (Mary) wrote:

>
>
>><FONT COLOR="#ffffFF"><SMALL>Cynthia Smathers is a Sicko, a bitch,
>>and a very unstable individual!</FONT>
>>
>That is what was in the HTML this afternoon. I kept a copy of it.
>
>>I checked the source of the actual page I downloaded from
>>the server against the version of the page posted here, and
>>the only difference is the background color, which makes the
>>offensive message readable.
>>
>Sever version now has the line totally removed.

I too kept a copy, and I too am willing to testify to what I saw there in court anytime you please. Furthermore, I copied and pasted into email and mailed copies to the Make a Wish Foundation, his church, and the other orgs on there.

I suggest that everyone do the same lest the chicken be taken as fowl.

-24 Fighting chickens


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From: reid@photodude.com (PhotoDude)
Newsgroups: mindspring.local.atlanta
Subject: Re: Hillyard's Home Page....it's a doozy!
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 14:47:42 GMT
Organization: PhotoDude Labs(tm)
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bigred@mindspring.com (24 Fighting Chickens) emitted electrons which upon decoding said:

>I suggest that everyone do the same lest the chicken be taken as fowl.

HEH, *you* made your own nest....now you have to lay in it.

BTW, trace routes reveal a sucking swirling bandwidth vortex located around user-168-121-20-239.dialup.mindspring.com. I assume this means you're still downloading every graphic on the web at 33.6....or a wimpy 31.4.

Glad to see you've come back to visit our antiquated text based form of communication.
__________________________________________________
PhotoDude~~aka~~Reid Stott~~e-mail: reid@photodude.com
A Photo Gallery with an Attitude....over 175 photos online
including *1996 Olympics* and *Fuji's Feline Tour* at:
http://www.mindspring.com/~fotodude


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From: bigred@mindspring.com (24 Fighting Chickens)
Newsgroups: mindspring.local.atlanta
Subject: Re: Hillyard's Home Page....it's a doozy!
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 15:22:37 GMT
Organization: *
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On Thu, 02 Jan 1997 14:47:42 GMT, PhotoDude wrote:

>bigred@mindspring.com (24 Fighting Chickens) emitted electrons which
>upon decoding said:
>
>>I suggest that everyone do the same lest the chicken be taken as fowl.
>
>HEH, *you* made your own nest....now you have to lay in it.

You don't want to help out? Fine. Sit there and do nothing. Chicken or no, unless a bunch of people call up Nesbit Elementary, like I did, and complain that the head of their PTA is an ex-con...and the TREASURER of a non-profit group, Hillyard is going to run wild.

Most importantly, though, let this all be a lesson to everyone about checking references and calling past employers. Egads, how many people do we hire that as treasurers that are ex-cons with credit fraud charges against them?


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From: reid@photodude.com (PhotoDude)
Newsgroups: mindspring.local.atlanta
Subject: Re: Hillyard's Home Page....it's a doozy!
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 15:29:27 GMT
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bigred@mindspring.com (24 Fighting Chickens) emitted electrons which upon decoding said:

> >HEH, *you* made your own nest....now you have to lay in it.

>You don't want to help out?

The first line was a chicken joke, but apparently it went over your beak.

> Fine. Sit there and do nothing.

Umm....look at the first post in this thread. The one that may have informed you of RH's latest escapades. It originated in PhotoDude Labs(tm), where our crack team of Usenet analysts determined that the best way to be pro-active in this matter would be to post this thread. They determined doing so would trigger embedded code in the 24 FC Bot, and it would take care of the dirty work.....we just do research.

....seems to have worked pretty well :-)
__________________________________________________
PhotoDude~~aka~~Reid Stott~~e-mail: reid@photodude.com
A Photo Gallery with an Attitude....over 175 photos online
including *1996 Olympics* and *Fuji's Feline Tour* at:
http://www.mindspring.com/~fotodude


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From: DoNotSpamMe@Really.Com (Cyn)
Newsgroups: mindspring.local.atlanta
Subject: Re: Hillyard's Home Page....it's a doozy!
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 15:39:45 GMT
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On Thu, 02 Jan 1997 12:37:37 GMT, efp@mindspring.com (Eric Palmer) wrote:

>On Thu, 02 Jan 1997 08:31:51 GMT, miseries@mindspring.com (¤Keeper of
>Miseries¤) wrote:

>>Hillyard reminds me of those scary movies about stalking...

>>...but what makes it very eerie is that this is REAL!

>>How come nothing is ever done about this [in a legal manner]?

>THink how Cyn feels and all the others that get harrassedstalked.
>Its
>real scary.

It is very frightening. And how would you like to explain to your six-year-old child about that there's a bad man actively trying to hurt us? Yes, Katie had already been educated about not talking to strangers and so on, but when you're being stalked you have to go a bit further in protecting your children and yourself.

Hillyard is scheduled to be arraigned on January 8 in Dekalb County. Stalking charges are being filed. I'm told, however, that the judge will not permit anyone but the accused, his lawyer and the prosecutor to enter the courtroom. I'm preparing a document for the solicitor's office. Anyone who has further evidence or information to offer can contact Noah Pines of the Dekalb Solictor's Office at 404-371-2255.

Thanks,
Cyn

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From: no.spam@my.addy (Dennis)
Newsgroups: mindspring.local.atlanta
Subject: Re: Hillyard's Home Page....it's a doozy!
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 16:40:25 GMT
Organization: *
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DoNotSpamMe@Really.Com (Cyn) wrote:

:It is very frightening. And how would you like to explain to your
:six-year-old child about that there's a bad man actively trying to
:hurt us?. . .

My heart goes out to you and your family, Cynthia. The concept of an adult man terrorizing a family, as Hillyard has done, makes me furious. A child should never have to endure such a thing as this. I haven't the ability to describe how Hillyard's cowardly acts truly make me feel.

:Hillyard is scheduled to be arraigned on January 8 in Dekalb County.
:Stalking charges are being filed. I'm told, however, that the judge
:will not permit anyone but the accused, his lawyer and the prosecutor
:to enter the courtroom. . .

Is this closed arraignment SOP in cases of stalking? This stinks. If this arraignment doesn't result in a trial (unthinkable, but possible), I would like to know why, particularly if it is due to the ineptitude or inexperience of the Solicitor's office.

Dennis
halide@mindspring.com
'as in chloride, bromide and iodide'


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From: DoNotSpamMe@Really.Com (Cyn)
Newsgroups: mindspring.local.atlanta
Subject: Re: Hillyard's Home Page....it's a doozy!
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 19:17:56 GMT
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On Thu, 02 Jan 1997 16:40:25 GMT, no.spam@my.addy (Dennis) wrote:

>My heart goes out to you and your family, Cynthia. The concept of an
>adult man terrorizing a family, as Hillyard has done, makes me
>furious. A child should never have to endure such a thing as this.
>I
>haven't the ability to describe how Hillyard's cowardly acts truly
>make me feel.

Thanks. Actually, the fact that Hillyard is walking around free as a bird with that long list of past felony convictions and NO significant jail time is simply one more sign that our criminal justice system is so broken its almost hopeless. And all these organizations he's involved in (or claims to be), like the Nesbitt Elementary PTA and so forth, almost certainly have no idea what they've encountered. Who does a background check on volunteers who seem helpful? It gives the man access to other people's children, and who knows what he's doing with that access? What else would set him off--another soccer team beating his son's team? Somebody voting against something he's lobbying for? I sincerely doubt this is the first time he's stalked someone.

>:Hillyard is scheduled to be arraigned on January 8 in Dekalb County.
>:Stalking charges are being filed. I'm told, however, that the judge
>:will not permit anyone but the accused, his lawyer and the
>prosecutor
>:to enter the courtroom. . .

>Is this closed arraignment SOP in cases of stalking? This stinks.
>If
>this arraignment doesn't result in a trial (unthinkable, but
>possible), I would like to know why, particularly if it is due to the
>ineptitude or inexperience of the Solicitor's office.

The closed arraignments are, according to the Solicitor's office, standard in Dekalb county courts. They told me the courtrooms are small, and they arraign a great many cretins in each session, so only the absolutely vital personnel are permitted in the courtroom. I decided that going would be too much of a risk for me, as there is no chance of me speaking to the judge or even hearing Hillyard's plea.

Cyn

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From: bigred@mindspring.com (24 Fighting Chickens)
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Subject: Re: Hillyard's Home Page....it's a doozy!
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On Thu, 02 Jan 1997 15:29:27 GMT, PhotoDude wrote:

>....seems to have worked pretty well :-)

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From: fig@mindspring.com (Fig)
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Subject: Re: Hillyard's Home Page....it's a doozy!
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DoNotSpamMe@Really.Com (Cyn) wrote:

(SNIP SNIP)

:>The closed arraignments are, according to the Solicitor's office,
:>standard in Dekalb county courts. They told me the courtrooms are
:>small, and they arraign a great many cretins in each session, so only
:>the absolutely vital personnel are permitted in the courtroom

It's not too thrilling anyway Cyn. From reading a follow-up message I noted that "Ducky" plead not guilty and asked for a Jury trial. (What a surprise........)

Actually, if I had to speculate his attorney waived arraignment and bumped it to State Court removing the need for either to appear in Court. If Ducky holds to form he won't pay his attorney so come trial day he will have some pathetic lie about why he needs a delay to get a new attorney.

. I
:>decided that going would be too much of a risk for me, as there is no
:>chance of me speaking to the judge or even hearing Hillyard's plea.

Don't let them snow you, you can be present when, and if a plea is worked out and sentencing occurs. If there is something you want to say to the judge , by all means say it. If they give you a hard time about this lemme know.

Fig


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:>--Joe Kogel


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From: Technomom@see.sig.for.address (Cynthia Armistead-Smathers)
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On Fri, 28 Mar 1997 15:11:39 -0500, Todd Hedenstrom wrote:

>Cynthia Armistead-Smathers wrote:

>> He had a directory called "data" on his new web site that he thought
>> was safe because it wasn't linked from the main page, so he didn't
>> password protect it.

>I had no idea you were a tyro hacker. Aloha. :)

Well, I don't think I'd call myself a hacker--I've never been interested in getting into things I'm not _supposed_ to see. Hillyard, of course, has been accusing me of being a hacker since last summer, but he's simply got really silly ideas about what constitutes private and public data. If it's on a publicly-accessible web or ftp site without a password, is is public data. Period.

Hilly boy has added a banner to his main page that says "Hi Cyn!" and another page called cyn.htm making a big deal out of posting his access logs, saying that I'll be kicked off MindSpring because I violated the TOS. He may have wanted his Quicken and other files private, but he didn't bother to password protect them--so they weren't, any more than if I put a directory in my web space without links from the main page and thought it was bulletproof (and I wouldn't be so foolish).

I've never even had the least bit of desire to hack into anything anywhere--but being the acting LAN administrator at work has forced me to be much more security conscious. Interesting stuff, that is . . .

Cyn --technomom@mindspring.com
http://www.mindspring.com/~cynthia

 

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