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This is a test


Subject: Re: I'm not sure it's Marron...
From: rickh@gim.net (Gary Bauer - Viper Militia)
Date: 1996/07/05
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In article <4rj4mv$3n3@larry.cc.emory.edu>,
csundel@larry.cc.emory.edu (Cynthia L Sundell) wrote:

>Nothing consistent in his style. Obvious that he acted like an
>illiterate to obscure his own style, but it still showed through
>in those posts where he had to think about what he said.
>(plus, given the pace of the posting, he clearly was more concerned
>in many situations with getting a response out fast).
>


I was not trying to be consistent. Originally I tried to simply respond to rediculous posts from people like Trent and Shit Shine. Then when that mentally imbalanced Goob got involved I shot him down big time so he started his little BOT and I responded with my little BOT.

>It took him a while to get going on Sewell. But if he decided to
>try to "destroy" rsfc, its reasonable to assume he'd have to start
>flame wars with the SEC crowd. Otherwise, it would have been only
>Trent and the Texas crowd.

I went after Sewell because the stupid redneck food thread was getting old and has nothing to do with football.

>
>It's him.

It's not Mikey. He does not have the brains for this.

Centipede


Subject: Re: I'm not sure it's Marron...
From: centipede@hotmail.com (Gary Bauer)
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In article <4rj4mv$3n3@larry.cc.emory.edu>,
csundel@larry.cc.emory.edu (Cynthia L Sundell) wrote:

>Nothing consistent in his style. Obvious that he acted like an
>illiterate to obscure his own style, but it still showed through
>in those posts where he had to think about what he said.
>(plus, given the pace of the posting, he clearly was more concerned
>in many situations with getting a response out fast).
>

I was not trying to be consistent. Originally I tried to simply respond to rediculous posts from people like Trent and Shit Shine. Then when that mentally imbalanced Goob got involved I shot him down big time so he started his little BOT and I responded with my little BOT.

>It took him a while to get going on Sewell. But if he decided to
>try to "destroy" rsfc, its reasonable to assume he'd have to start
>flame wars with the SEC crowd. Otherwise, it would have been only
>Trent and the Texas crowd.

I went after Sewell because the stupid redneck food thread was getting old and has nothing to do with football.

>
>It's him.

It's not Mikey. He does not have the brains for this.

Centipede


Subject: Re: I'm not sure it's Marron...
From: nobody@flame.alias.net (Anonymous)
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On 5 Jul 1996 07:48:30 GMT, in rec.sport.football.college meayre@iastate.edu (Matthew D Eayre) wrote:

>Anon also went after others, such as Jim Sewell, that Marron never seemed
>to dislike. Plus anon's tirade against Sewell was below even Marron's
>standards.
>
>--
>Matthew D Eayre I'm not not really this stupid;
>meayre@iastate.edu I just pretend to be on the net.

I wenty after Sewell because he posted a stupid message about eating tomatoes that does not belong in this newsgroup. If he were to say his Auburn Tigers will suck bigtime, now that Pat Dyes recruits are gone, then it would have been an appropriate message.


Subject: Re: I'm not sure it's Marron...
From: nobody@flame.alias.net (Anonymous)
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On Sat, 06 Jul 1996 03:21:50 -0500, in rec.sport.football.college trent.woodruff@nosurf.com (Trent Woodruff) wrote:

>-=> Quoting Gary Bauer to ALL <=-
>
> GB> It's not Mikey. He does not have the brains for this.
>
>Well, at least we can agree on SOMETHING...
>
>... A woman's mind is cleaner than a man's, as she changes it more often.
>~~~ Blue Wave/DOS v2.20 [NR]

I went after Trent because he is not real bright. He has the most shallow mind in this newsgroup. Look at the above reply to Bauer. He added nothing in his reply. 8 words, and most of them should not count. This guy has the vocabulary of a 6th grader. Unfortunately, he does not have the thinking ability of a 6th grader as evidenced by his posts, which basically repeat or acknowledge something that someone else has already said.


Subject: Re: I'm not sure it's Marron...
From: nobody@flame.alias.net (Anonymous)
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On Fri, 05 Jul 96 14:42:20 GMT, in rec.sport.football.college rickh@gim.net (Gary Bauer - Viper Militia) wrote:

>
>I was not trying to be consistent. Originally I tried to simply respond to
>rediculous posts from people like Trent and Shit Shine. Then when that
>mentally imbalanced Goob got involved I shot him down big time so he started
>his little BOT and I responded with my little BOT.
>

This guy is an imposter. I did not use a BOT, I used a macro.

>I went after Sewell because the stupid redneck food thread was getting old and
>has nothing to do with football.
>

His reasoning here is the same as mine but this just points out how stupid the food post are except to hicks.

>It's not Mikey. He does not have the brains for this.

He is right about this. It's not Mikey. I hate the Huskers and everything Osborne stands for. Osborne is the worlds biggest hippocrite.


Subject: Re: I'm not sure it's Marron...
From: nobody@flame.alias.net (Anonymous)
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On 5 Jul 1996 15:03:23 GMT, in rec.sport.football.college bdg9635@tamaix.tamu.edu (Bradley Dale Glover) wrote:

>Matthew D Eayre <meayre@iastate.edu> wrote:
>
>>Plus anon's tirade against Sewell was below even Marron's
>>standards.
>
>It was below Marron's standards when posting as Mike Marron. Duh.
>
>It was Marron and my repeated saying so makes it so, as that florida
>freak with the stupid logon has so kindly pointed out.
>
>
>shoe shine boy(gee, imagine that, morons standards went down when
> posting as anon)

The only thing that your saying so does, is show the world how truly STUPID you are.


Subject: Re: I'm not sure it's Marron...
From: nobody@flame.alias.net (Anonymous)
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On Sat, 06 Jul 1996 03:21:52 -0500, in rec.sport.football.college trent.woodruff@nosurf.com (Trent Woodruff) wrote:

>-=> Quoting Cynthia L Sundell to ALL <=-
>
> CLS> (Other clues: picked on Trent and Goob, not Marron's favorites here.)
>
>And what the hell does THAT mean?
>
>
>(I'm hurt...<sniff>)
>
>... You're playing with a full deck. You're just a slow shuffler.
>~~~ Blue Wave/DOS v2.20 [NR]

Case closed. This guy has the mental capacity of a gnat.


Subject: Re: I'm not sure it's Marron...
From: nobody@flame.alias.net (Anonymous) Date: 1996/07/06
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On Fri, 05 Jul 1996 13:20:00 GMT, in rec.sport.football.college mjmarron@gate.net (Michael J. Marron) wrote:

>>ddirgo@bluejay.creighton.edu (David Dirgo) wrote:
>>>Jonathan Jones (jjones@twri.tamu.edu) wrote:
>>>> Anonymous (carlson@rahul.net, perhaps?) wrote:
>
>>>> shit shine boy does not know his ass from a hole in the ground. Not
>>>> only is this not Mikey Marron, Bradley would not have a clue who I am
>>>> becuase until yesterday, I had no idea who he was. But as long as he
>>>> insists that I am this Marron guy, great. It seems to be a good cover
>>>> for now.
>
>>> Mike, are you terminally stupid, or do you just think everyone else is?
>
>>Y'know, it doesn't make sense. Why would Marron be himself for so many
>>months, only to develop a sudden sense of shyness? I admit that it's
>>rather coincidental that Mike seems to have made himself suddenly absent,
>>but maybe he's just on vacation or something.
>
>>Besides, he would have to know that people would be suspicious if he
>>disappeared at the same time, so the thing to do is post anonymously _and_
>>under his actual address. But wait -- if he knew that we knew, he might
>>be trying to trick us. Clearly, therefore, I cannot drink the wine in
>>front of me.
>
>>He just _has_ to be a Sicilian. :)
>
>Hilarious!! Good job, Sherlock, you solved the great mystery.
>I got a new job which requires me to be out of town frequently.
>Figures it was a Husker who has the scruples to figure all this
>out. Dumbass goobites. Clueless cowards, the whole fucking
>lot of 'em.
>
>Regarding my calling the cops on Shoeboy, (*once*--which I regret
>but that's a long story) geezus, when I fuck up I *reeeaaally* fuck up
>huh? (Shoulda' called the cops on .anon creeps instead, course, being
>an Aggie cop he wouldn't have a clue *either.*)
>
>Didn't realize I wielded so much power over this list. Jesus H.
>Christ, this place is arockin' !! One little mistake and I set off a
>chain of events that makes the LA riots look like a frat party
>bonfire. Napalm with a little snakeye thrown in to boot!!
>B >(hey to my clueless Aggie friends and challenges)
>
>--
>Nebraska's#1
>Mike(aka Cyberaider)Marron
>
>
>
>

Hey you imposter. I'm Mike Marron.
Huskers Rule, the field and the penetientary.


Subject: Re: I'm not sure it's Marron...
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On 5 Jul 1996 14:59:02 GMT, in rec.sport.football.college bdg9635@tamaix.tamu.edu (Bradley Dale Glover) wrote:

>
>And it annoys Asgaroth as well! It's mikey, Asgaroth, and my repeated
>saying so makes it so.
>
>Like some emailer told me, mikey will show back up with his tail b/t his
>legs and claim to have been on vacation or something.
>
>But the bottom line is that it's mikey, Asgaroth, and my repeated saying
>so makes it so.
>
>
>shoe shine boy(it's mikey, it's mikey, it's mikey, it's mikey, it's mikey)
>

You are absolutely right. I ADMIT FROM THIS MOMENT ON THAT I AM MIKE MARRON.


Subject: Re: I'm not sure it's Marron...
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On 5 Jul 1996 03:10:04 GMT, in rec.sport.football.college goober@tam2000.tamu.edu (El Goob (Gary W. Smith)) wrote:

>In some article, Asgaroth <moore@scri.fsu.edu> wrote:
>->This means that "anon" managed to lurk for a week before posting. All he
>->did was parrot a stock Goober response. Any imbecile could've done that.
>
>
>Are you calling me an imbecile?
>
>
>
>- goob (i can read between the lines) smith
>

As a matter of fact, I am.


Subject: Re: I'm not sure it's Marron...
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On Sat, 06 Jul 1996 03:21:53 -0500, in rec.sport.football.college trent.woodruff@nosurf.com (Trent Woodruff) wrote:

>-=> Quoting John S. Kosmicke to ALL <=-
>
> JSK> so he asked Anonymous to bug them, and Anonymous obliged. The jab at
> JSK> Trent about "I give orders to guys like you" or whatever sounds like
> JSK> it could be a pet phrase at wherever Marron or Anonymous works.
>
>Lawn service people say that?
>
>(Seems sort of odd...)
>
>... Belief is no substitute for arithmetic.
>~~~ Blue Wave/DOS v2.20 [NR]

Another TYPICAL, STUPID response from Trent.


Subject: Re: I'm not sure it's Marron...
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On 6 Jul 1996 06:03:58 GMT, in rec.sport.football.college jjones@twri.tamu.edu (Jonathan Jones) wrote:

>John S. Kosmicke wrote:
>
>-> > >Plus anon's tirade against Sewell was below even Marron's
>-> > >standards.
>-> > It was below Marron's standards when posting as Mike Marron. Duh.
>-> Whatever. Even if this were the case, that doesn't explain why Marron should
>-> care. Of all the people who Marron has tangled with on this newsgroup, why
>-> would Marron suddenly jump on Jim Sewell out of the blue?
>
>That settles it. John Kosmicke == Mikey Marron == Anonymous.
>
>Yawn,
>Jon J.
>A&M '97

Is it a coincidence that mos of the stupid posts come from Texas A&M faggies.


Subject: Re: I'm not sure it's Marron...
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On 7 Jul 1996 18:19:22 GMT, in rec.sport.football.college shit shine boy, bdg9635@tamaix.tamu.edu (Bradley Dale Glover) wrote:

>Mikey agsroth paddles gary bauer anon Moron wrote:
>
>>The only thing that your saying so does, is show the world how truly
>>STUPID you are.
>
>
>Is that a fact.
>
>
>shoe shine boy(man of sophisticated jollies)
>

 

A very painful fact.


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On 3 Jul 1996 08:44:13 -0400, esa@kaamos.mindspring.com (Esa Ahola) wrote:

>Cynthia Smathers <cynthia@mindspring.com> wrote:

>>The fact that MindSpring didn't cancel your account after almost a
>>week of posts (and yes, they were notified of the posts from the
>>beginning) that clearly violate MindSpring's acceptable use
>>guidelines is very disappointing (and in fact I'd like to see an
>>official response from MindSpring on that issue).

>Official, yikes. Deadpan on. This is official.

>We had hoped that local community standards could still prevail,
>foolish as such sentiments may turn out to be. We could afford
>such clutching at straws in our own local groups, which we consider
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>The THANKS spam was a reality check.

>Also, complaint volume to abuse@mindspring.com or
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>"content-based" abuses. Complaining about newsgroup charter violations
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>charter, but I would recommend emailing the abuser and
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>We promise to do better, because we realize we have to. We also
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On Sat, 06 Jul 1996 14:46:33 GMT, in mindspring.local.atlanta cynthia@mindspring.com (Cynthia Smathers) wrote:

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On Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:45:46 GMT, in mindspring.local.atlanta cynthia@mindspring.com (Cynthia Smathers) wrote:

>On Fri, 28 Jun 1996 03:36:29 GMT, ddd3@atl.mindspring.com (Dennis
>Delcambre) wrote:
>
>>This message is directed to our newsgroup's "Net-Cop"
>
>On what grounds? Turning yourself in for refusing to limit yourself to
>noncommercial discussion posts? You posted an advertisement in a newsgroup
>where advertising is verboten. When Mike *very politely* pointed out that
>advertising is not appropriate in this group, you responded with rudeness.
>You're not only acting boorinshly, you're calling even more attention to
>it. Mike, on the other hand, has been a regular and very helpful
>participant in the mindspring.* groups for some time, and has never posted
>inppropriately or otherwise made himself unwelcome.
>
>>equiptment is outdated, am I suppose to gag my equiptment. Don't get
>>me wrong, I am not sticking up for commercialism on the net, I am not
>>into sales or anything, just someone who hates being told by some
>>"smartass" that it is "my way or the highway". I personally think
>
>Please provide proof of your implication that anyone told you it was "my
>way or the highway" in response to your post.
>
>>that as long as the post is not indecent, or demeaning, wouldn't it be
>>better to just let the post be?
>
>No. Because there are appropriate forums for various sorts of posts, and
>yours didn't belong in this forum.
>
>> I do thank you for the tip on the other new newsgroup, atl.housing,
>>however your message struck me as inflammatory more than anything
>
>Hmm. Any post disagreeing with you, no matter how politely worded, is
>"inflammatory" now? I see. You'll probably start screaming "censorship"
>next. Congratulations, you're making a good start on the road that leads to
>net kookdom.
>
>>else, and judging from all the other posts you have made on this and
>>other newsgroups, I labeled you as a self imposed "net" cop who spends
>>more time complaining about other peoples "posts" than anything else.
>>For everyone else who hasn't been counting, I noticed at least 5
>>similar posts from "Mike Lanham, Ferris.Buehler@mindspring.com"
>>JUST in the past 24 hours. If that isn't "net-copism", what is!
>
>You obviously didn't bother participating in the mindspring.* groups before
>posting, or you would have found plenty of posts from Mike on other
>subjects. Those of us who do participate find commercial posts especially
>annoying, and when we hit our limit of tolerance we usually post responses
>to those asking that they be taken elsewhere. If he saw 5 such posts in 24
>hours, would it not have been inconsistent for him to respond to one, but
>not the others? If he had responded only to your post, I'm sure you would
>have been whining about being singled out.
>
>>THIS GUY HAS NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN TO PLAY NET-COP!
>
>And you have nothing better to do than alienate the community you were
>trying to sell to. Bad idea according to any theory of marketing.
>
>Cyn
>cynthia@mindspring.com
>http://www.mindspring.com/~cynthia
>If you think you have all the answers,
>you haven't asked all the questions.
>
>Finger for disclaimers & such


 

Anything you post is becoming inflammatory to a great many of us. 32 of us have sent emails complaining about the vicious nature of your attacks on people.

Richard Hillyard


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On Sun, 30 Jun 1996 05:05:40 GMT, in mindspring.local.atlanta cynthia@mindspring.com (Cynthia Smathers) wrote:

>On Fri, 28 Jun 1996 21:43:38 +0100, jossjive@bmtc.mindspring.com wrote:
>
>>I have 3 tickets to soccer semi finals for sale write Norman at
>>jossjive@mindspring.com $100 per ticket on July 30th in Athens
>
>Please don't post advertisements in this newsgroup. The
>mindspring.marketplace.forsale group exists to give you an appropriate
>forum for them.
>
>Thank you,
>Cyn
>cynthia@mindspring.com
>http://www.mindspring.com/~cynthia
>If you think you have all the answers,
>you haven't asked all the questions.
>
>
Are you back on the Mindspring payroll?


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On Mon, 01 Jul 1996 18:51:39 GMT, in mindspring.local.atlanta cynthia@mindspring.com (Cynthia Smathers) wrote:

>On Mon, 01 Jul 1996 14:35:15 -0500, Ferris Buehler
><Ferris.Buehler@Mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>okay, that's enough.
>>
>>Is there a way in which I may make a formal complaint?
>>This guy has refused to listen to numerous responses to stop
>>advertising in the wrong newsgroups. He has sent abusive responses
>>across the groups and email.
>
>I'm not precisely sure which of several jerks we're talking about at the
>moment, but to complain formally to MindSpring you forward copy of the
>post or email with all headers to postmaster@mindspring.com
>
>Cyn
>cynthia@mindspring.com
>http://www.mindspring.com/~cynthia
>If you think you have all the answers,
>you haven't asked all the questions.
>
>Finger for disclaimers & such

Why don't you and Ferris go finger each other!


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On Sun, 30 Jun 1996 05:11:16 GMT, in mindspring.local.atlanta cynthia@mindspring.com (Cynthia Smathers) wrote:

>On Sun, 30 Jun 1996 02:20:38 GMT, auction@atl.mindspring.com (Stephen Reed)
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>
>I seem to recall that you've been asked not to post commercial advertising
>in discussion newsgroups in the past--atl.general, maybe? Mike kindly gave
>you the names of the groups where this post would have been appropriate,
>but as long as you've been a MindSpringer I rather doubt you posted this ad
>here out of ignorance--more likely arrogance. Go away.
>
>Cyn
>cynthia@mindspring.com
>http://www.mindspring.com/~cynthia
>If you think you have all the answers,
>you haven't asked all the questions.
>
>Finger for disclaimers & such

 

What kind of slut are you anyway. You spend all of your time on the computer. You must have a nice social life.


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On Tue, 02 Jul 1996 17:17:42 GMT, in mindspring.local.atlanta cynthia@mindspring.com (Cynthia Smathers) wrote:

>BTW, if the object of this particular post was the user dd3, try fingering
>his account now.
>
>Cyn
>cynthia@mindspring.com
>http://www.mindspring.com/~cynthia
>If you think you have all the answers,
>you haven't asked all the questions.
>
>Finger for disclaimers & such

Hey Cyn! I saw your picture on your homepage. I love feisty women. How about a fingering lesson?


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On Mon, 01 Jul 1996 18:51:39 GMT, in mindspring.local.atlanta cynthia@mindspring.com (Cynthia Smathers) wrote:

>On Mon, 01 Jul 1996 14:35:15 -0500, Ferris Buehler
><Ferris.Buehler@Mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>okay, that's enough.
>>
>>Is there a way in which I may make a formal complaint?
>>This guy has refused to listen to numerous responses to stop
>>advertising in the wrong newsgroups. He has sent abusive responses
>>across the groups and email.
>
>I'm not precisely sure which of several jerks we're talking about at the
>moment, but to complain formally to MindSpring you forward copy of the
>post or email with all headers to postmaster@mindspring.com
>
>Cyn
>cynthia@mindspring.com
>http://www.mindspring.com/~cynthia
>If you think you have all the answers,
>you haven't asked all the questions.
>
>Finger for disclaimers & such

 

Your a little whore just like your mother


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  On Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:45:46 GMT, in mindspring.local.atlanta cynthia@mindspring.com (Cynthia Smathers) wrote:

>On Fri, 28 Jun 1996 03:36:29 GMT, ddd3@atl.mindspring.com (Dennis
>Delcambre) wrote:
>
>>This message is directed to our newsgroup's "Net-Cop"
>
>On what grounds? Turning yourself in for refusing to limit yourself to
>noncommercial discussion posts? You posted an advertisement in a newsgroup
>where advertising is verboten. When Mike *very politely* pointed out that
>advertising is not appropriate in this group, you responded with rudeness.
>You're not only acting boorinshly, you're calling even more attention to
>it. Mike, on the other hand, has been a regular and very helpful
>participant in the mindspring.* groups for some time, and has never posted
>inppropriately or otherwise made himself unwelcome.
>
>>equiptment is outdated, am I suppose to gag my equiptment. Don't get
>>me wrong, I am not sticking up for commercialism on the net, I am not
>>into sales or anything, just someone who hates being told by some
>>"smartass" that it is "my way or the highway". I personally think
>
>Please provide proof of your implication that anyone told you it was "my
>way or the highway" in response to your post.
>
>>that as long as the post is not indecent, or demeaning, wouldn't it be
>>better to just let the post be?
>
>No. Because there are appropriate forums for various sorts of posts, and
>yours didn't belong in this forum.
>
>> I do thank you for the tip on the other new newsgroup, atl.housing,
>>however your message struck me as inflammatory more than anything
>
>Hmm. Any post disagreeing with you, no matter how politely worded, is
>"inflammatory" now? I see. You'll probably start screaming "censorship"
>next. Congratulations, you're making a good start on the road that leads to
>net kookdom.
>
>>else, and judging from all the other posts you have made on this and
>>other newsgroups, I labeled you as a self imposed "net" cop who spends
>>more time complaining about other peoples "posts" than anything else.
>>For everyone else who hasn't been counting, I noticed at least 5
>>similar posts from "Mike Lanham, Ferris.Buehler@mindspring.com"
>>JUST in the past 24 hours. If that isn't "net-copism", what is!
>
>You obviously didn't bother participating in the mindspring.* groups before
>posting, or you would have found plenty of posts from Mike on other
>subjects. Those of us who do participate find commercial posts especially
>annoying, and when we hit our limit of tolerance we usually post responses
>to those asking that they be taken elsewhere. If he saw 5 such posts in 24
>hours, would it not have been inconsistent for him to respond to one, but
>not the others? If he had responded only to your post, I'm sure you would
>have been whining about being singled out.
>
>>THIS GUY HAS NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN TO PLAY NET-COP!
>
>And you have nothing better to do than alienate the community you were
>trying to sell to. Bad idea according to any theory of marketing.
>
>Cyn
>cynthia@mindspring.com
>http://www.mindspring.com/~cynthia
>If you think you have all the answers,
>you haven't asked all the questions.
>
>Finger for disclaimers & such

 


I got something better for you to play with bitch


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This past Monday, Cynthia Smathers wrote the below message on this newsgroup. I am Richard Hillyard, and none of this was initiated from any memer of my family. This past week, I contacted Mindspring about suspected unauthorized use of my account. If any messages were emailed to this woman, they were sent by someone other than me, or a member of my family. Early this week with the help of Mindspring technical support, my password was changed to prevent further use. From what Ms. Smathers knows about the Internet, perhaps she is the one who hacked my old password.

I do not know Ms. Smathers, and until now have never heard of her. And frankly have no interest in her since I have no idea who she is. For her to post the things below with out checking into them further is slander, and as soon as I find out who she is, she will probably hear from someone concerning this. In fact, I have already forwarded a copy of her post to an attorney. In addition, I have received no email from her or Mindspring in regards to her allegations. In regards to my being a christian, I would assume that Ms. Smathers is not. I am married with 4 children, some probably Ms. Smathers age, and cannot imagine ever desiring or having an interest in this woman.

As far as my privacy, my phone number and address is public knowledge, and I DO HAVE CALLER ID. I also have call block of any unidentified number. What I am saying, is that if Ms. Smathers is suggesting a telephone campaign, all BellSouth needs is a date and time of a harassing call and they will take action. I do not have to do anything. I do not have anything to hide, including my phone number.

As to all of the below email addresses, some of them are mine and some are not. If Ms. Smathers would use her telecommunications and internet expertise to search for how many Richard Hillyards there are in the US, she would find that there are several.

As far as Mindspring takin action against me, I spoke with a customer support person twice this week and not once was any of this mentioned to me. In fact, I knew nothing about this until I read the post below.

In conclusion, I sugest that Ms. Smathers get all the facts before she posts anything on a newsgroup, however public or private it may be. I have no intention of responding to anymore of her personal attacks and any further posts concerning me will be forwarded to my attorney as well.


Richard M. Hillyard


On Mon, 08 Jul 1996 03:12:53 GMT, cynthia@mindspring.com (Cynthia Smathers) wrote:

>This is simply a warning to other MindSpringers and a request for
>information. I'm sure that MindSpring will take action as I've already
>given them the information about this situation, but I also realize that
>I'm probably not the only person so "honored" by his attention.
>
>I've had no contact with Richard Hillyard, who uses several email addresses
>(listed below) until today. At that point, he started sending me a bit of a
>mailbomb, referencing several threads in the mindspring.local.atlanta
>newsgroup. I sent email to him, cc'd to postmaster@mindspring.com, stating
>that I did not wish to enter into conversation with him and I'd consider
>any further email harassment. I didn't complain about the next email I
>received from him, thinking that he may not have read my request quite yet.
>
>A few minutes later, though, he started using two different anonymous
>remailers (shell.portal.com and flame.alias.net) to send more email,
>including obscene suggestions. I'd appreciate knowing if any other users
>have received similar email from him. Looks like he needs to spend more
>time with those "Christian Resources on the Web" he lists on his links
>page.
>
>Richard, just a minor point--if you're going to harass folks, you need to
>better protect your family's privacy. Your home phone number and address
>are publicly available (in the Atlanta phone book, no big mystery there).
>You have 11 different email addresses that show up in various search
>engines on the web (several identified as being supplied directly from you
>rather than by routine searches). Your work address is also there, supplied
>by you. I did not get any of the information above from any source not
>publicly available and very easy to find (oh, like by using the "net
>search" button in Netscape).
>
>I am not in any way, shape or form threatening you or your family, just
>pointing out your foolishness in this area. How do you think your wife
>would feel about the suggestions and requests you've made in some of those
>emails? Oh--anonymous email addresses don't do you a bit of good if you
>sign them with your real name.
>
>Email addresses of which I'm aware, though some may be outdated.
>
>an611702@anon.penet.fi
>afn30721@afn.org
>rkh1@opsirm1.em.cdc.gov
>rmh1@opsirm1.em.cdc.gov
>acad@mindspring.com
>autocad@mindspring.com
>hillyard@mindspring.com
>rmh@mindspring.com
>rmh1@atlcom.net
>hillyard@cris.com
>jonchris@mindspring.com (apparently for his kids, but I don't doubt he'd
>use it too)
>
>There may be more but these were the obvious ones.
>
>Cyn
>cynthia@mindspring.com
>http://www.mindspring.com/~cynthia
>If you think you have all the answers,
>you haven't asked all the questions.
>
>If you want to attack/flame me, do so--in public.
>Such email sent directly to me will be reported as harassment.
>
>Finger for disclaimers & such


He changed the above, responded point by point, reposted it and sent me another copy via email:

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This past Monday, Cynthia Smathers wrote the below message on this newsgroup. I am Richard Hillyard, and none of this was initiated from any memer of my family. This past week, I contacted Mindspring about suspected unauthorized use of my account. If any messages were emailed to this woman, they were sent by someone other than me, or a member of my family. Early this week with the help of Mindspring technical support, my password was changed to prevent further use. From what Ms. Smathers knows about the Internet, perhaps she is the one who hacked my old password. I have responded in Ms. Smather's "preferred form of communicating the english language" below, in the copy of her posts, after her personal attacks.

I do not know Ms. Smathers, and until now have never heard of her. And frankly have no interest in her since I have no idea who she is. For her to post the things below with out checking into them further is slander, and as soon as I find out who she is, she will probably hear from someone concerning this. In fact, I have already forwarded a copy of her post to an attorney. In addition, I have received no email from her or Mindspring in regards to her allegations. In regards to my being a christian, I would assume that Ms. Smathers is not. I am married with 4 children, some probably Ms. Smathers age, and cannot imagine ever desiring or having an interest in this woman.

As far as my privacy, my phone number and address is public knowledge, and I DO HAVE CALLER ID. I also have call block of any unidentified number. What I am saying, is that if Ms. Smathers is suggesting a telephone campaign, all BellSouth needs is a date and time of a harassing call and they will take action. I do not have to do anything. I do not have anything to hide, including my phone number.

As to all of the below email addresses, some of them are mine and some are not. If Ms. Smathers would use her telecommunications and internet expertise to search for how many Richard Hillyards there are in the US, she would find that there are several.

As far as Mindspring takin action against me, I spoke with a customer support person twice this week and not once was any of this mentioned to me. In fact, I knew nothing about this until I read the post below.

In conclusion, I sugest that Ms. Smathers get all the facts before she posts anything on a newsgroup, however public or private it may be. I have no intention of responding to anymore of her personal attacks and any further posts concerning me will be forwarded to my attorney as well.

Richard M. Hillyard


On Mon, 08 Jul 1996 03:12:53 GMT, cynthia@mindspring.com (Cynthia Smathers) wrote:

:This is simply a warning to other MindSpringers and a request for information.
I'm sure that MindSpring will take action as I've already given them
the information about this situation, but I also realize that
I'm probably not the only person so "honored" by his attention.


I just went to your web page and find nothing tht would induce me to send ANY attention your way.

:I've had no contact with Richard Hillyard, who uses several email addresses
(listed below) until today. At that point, he started sending me a bit
of a mailbomb, referencing several threads in the
mindspring.local.atlanta newsgroup. I sent email to him,

I never received an email from this person.

:cc'd to postmaster@mindspring.com, stating that I did not wish to enter
into conversation with him and I'd consider any further email
harassment. I didn't complain about the next email I received from
him, thinking that he may not have read my request quite yet.

:A few minutes later, though, he started using two different anonymous
remailers (shell.portal.com and flame.alias.net) to send more email,
including obscene suggestions.


I have no idea what an anonymous emailer is. Guess I am just not the hacker that Ms. Smathers is.

:I'd appreciate knowing if any other users have received similar email from him.

I would appreciate knowing this also.

:Looks like he needs to spend more time with those "Christian Resources on the
Web" he lists on his links page.

>From this woman's attitude, she needs to spend more time than me.

:Richard, just a minor point--if you're going to harass folks, you need to
better protect your family's privacy. Your home phone number and
address are publicly available (in the Atlanta phone book, no big
mystery there).

I responded to this above and have nothing to hide from anyone.

:You have 11 different email addresses that show up in various search
engines on the web (several identified as being supplied directly from
you rather than by routine searches). Your work address is also there,
supplied by you.

I do not have 11 email accounts. Not all are mine and some are Mindspring alias'.

>I did not get any of the information above from any source not publicly
available and very easy to find (oh, like by using the "net search"
button in Netscape).

Your Internet prowess is astounding.

:I am not in any way, shape or form threatening you or your family, just
pointing out your foolishness in this area.

I am threatening you and have looked into legal issues regarding your post.

:How do you think your wife would feel about the suggestions and requests
you've made in some of those emails? Oh--anonymous email addresses
don't do you a bit of good if you sign them with your real name.

My wife looked at your web page sitting beside me and feels that she has NOTHING to worry about. We have been married a very long time and know each other very well. She has approved everything that has been typed by me in this post and email (I am responding to Ms. Smathers by email as well). Unlike you, she has never been divorced and from your mentioning that you have your daughter on weekends, my wife wishes to convey that she lives in the same house as her children and their father. Quite a novel approach to life, is it not?

:Email addresses of which I'm aware, though some may be outdated.
an611702@anon.penet.fi
afn30721@afn.org
rkh1@opsirm1.em.cdc.gov
rmh1@opsirm1.em.cdc.gov
acad@mindspring.com
autocad@mindspring.com
hillyard@mindspring.com
rmh@mindspring.com
rmh1@atlcom.net
hillyard@cris.com
jonchris@mindspring.com (apparently for his kids, but I don't doubt he'd >use it too)

:There may be more but these were the obvious ones.

:Cyn
:cynthia@mindspring.com
:http://www.mindspring.com/~cynthia
:If you think you have all the answers,
:you haven't asked all the questions.

:If you want to attack/flame me, do so--in public.
:Such email sent directly to me will be reported as harassment.

:Finger for disclaimers & such


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