March 1996
Subject: IFGA - Guppy Show/Page
From: afn30721@afn.org (Richard M. Hillyard)
Date: 1996/03/04
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Announcing an IFGA Fancy Guppy show in Kissimee, Florida on April 13, 14, 1996. For details about the show, go to the Fancy Guppy Home Page at:
http://www.atlcom.net/~rmh1/guppy/guppy.html
or send email to:
afn30721@afn.org
Subject: Re: FSU Semiholes (half-assed football team)
From: Sammy Criminole <booby@bowden.com>
Date: 1996/03/06
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RickW267 wrote:
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> Well actually there was this bad call in the endzone that gave the Sooners
> the win...almost as bad as the Lane Fenner call :-/
>
Holy Booby Bowden Dorkman. When will the fans of the girls school ever stop making excuses. I guess you never will get over your feeling of being a second rate school in the state of Florida.
Subject: Re: FSU
From: Sammy Criminole <booby@bowden.com>
Date: 1996/03/06
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RickW267 wrote:
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>
> People really graduate from there?
> This has indeed been a learning experience.....
>
> Rick Workman
Yes Dorkman,
Unlike Halfass U. where the communications degree involves audio taping a sex encounter and playing back for all your illiterate team mates.
Subject: Re: FSU Semiholes (half-assed football team)
From: Sammy Criminole <booby@bowden.com>
Date: 1996/03/06
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everhart@postoffice.ptd.net wrote:
> I guess Florida took the other route this year. Win some regular season games so
you can get pasted in a season ending bowl. :-)
>
> Harry
No Dude. Florida took back the normal route. Kick the girls schools butt on the way to a undefeated regular season.
- Florida Gators 8-7-1 against Half Ass U. in the 80's and 90's. Half Ass does not want to talk about anything before that.
Subject: Re: MNC Controversy Next Season
From: Sammy Criminole <booby@bowden.com>
Date: 1996/03/08
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Paul Kuehn wrote:
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> No, they'll beat at least one(Florida) and probably more(Miami, UVa depending
> on how their seasons go).
>
> Paul Kuehn
> qn@msg.ti.com
Has everyone noticed how UVa has become a football powerhouse since they beat HALFass U. The truth is, if Bowden had kept screwing up Charlie Ward, HALFass U. would have had many other ACC losses. The coaches admited during the GaTech game that Ward could not be coached. He was not smart enough to learn a system, so they had to let him "be the system". Tech would have one that game if Free Shoes Bowden had not turned the team over to Ward and out of the hands of the coaching staff.
That is why, Charlie is not playing in the NFL today, and was not drafted in a meaningful round. Noone even wants him as a backup anywhere. It is also the reason he is a bust in the NBA. The guy is not smart enough to be coached.
This is typical of the athlete that FSU recruits.
Subject: Re: FSU and Bowls
From: Sammy Criminole <booby@bowden.com>
Date: 1996/03/08
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J. Michael DuMond wrote:
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> > That's win "all" the regular season games. Something the Noles have yet
> > to do.
>
> We did it in 1979. Do you just refuse to believe this?
>
> Mike DuMond
Hey Dumbmond!
Will you please list all of the regular season games and scores in 1979 for FSU? They have NEVER gone undefeated during the regular season.
You and Dorkman continue to try and manufacture something that never happened. get a life Halfass.
Subject: Re: MNC Controversy Next Season
From: Sammy Criminole <booby@bowden.com>
Date: 1996/03/08
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Clark Moore wrote:
> I honestly believe Virginia would have played tOSU a close game this
> year.
Yeah right! You're smoking the same pipe DORKman and DUMBmond are smoking.
Virginia barely beat a very sorry and beat up Georgia team.
FSU is slowly falling to the level of the rest of the ACC in football. And looks like they will forever come in last in basketball.
The school is already at the bottom of the totem pole academically in the south and now their athletics is falling to the same level. An athletic program is more than football. I guess HALFass just find any athletes in prison to play basketball, baseball, swim, tennis, golf, track, gymnastics, etc, etc, etc.
Subject: Re: FSU Semiholes (half-assed football team)
From: Sammy Criminole <booby@bowden.com>
Date: 1996/03/08
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everhart@postoffice.ptd.net wrote:
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> FSU played in one "meaningful" bowl and beat Nebraska.
>
This is not true. Nebraska actually won that game. The refs gave the game to Bowden. And the media gave the MNC to him so he would quit whining.
Subject: Re: FSU Semiholes (half-assed football team)
From: Sammy Criminole <booby@bowden.com>
Date: 1996/03/08
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RickW267 wrote:
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> Trivia. What is the only Florida school to have lost to Vanderbilt in the
> past decade?
>
> f - l - o - r - i - d- a...U of
>
Het there DORKman. Still using AOL I see.
Trivia -
What is the only Florida team to lose a game to Sothern Miss to open the season?
HALFASS U.
Trivia -
Why did the chicken cross the road?
TO JOIN THE ACC.
Looks like your Basketball program has really improved.
Subject: Re: FSU Semiholes (half-assed football team)
From: Sammy Criminole <booby@bowden.com>
Date: 1996/03/08
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Paul Kuehn wrote:
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>
> Wrong. FSU went 11-0 during the regular in 1979, 16 years before Florida
> went undefeated. They did lose to OU in the Orange Bowl that year, but at
> least that was a more competitive game than this year's Fiesta Bowl.
>
> Paul Kuehn
> qn@msg.ti.com
Wrong Kuehnt Breath.
FSU has never gone undefeated in the regular season. Please post all of the games sites and scores to back up this lie that you, DORKman and Dumbmond are trying to perpetrate.
I get tired of seeing you here only to try and spread these vicious lies.
Subject: UF vs FSU this year!
From: afn30721@afn.org (Richard M. Hillyard)
Date: 1996/03/20
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Let's compare Florida/FSU athletics for 1995/1996.
Football - Nod to Florida
Championship game, beat FSU, 2nd in AP.
Basketball - Nod to Florida
Men lost to FSU, but similar teams at end of season.
Women killed FSU 2 times.
Baseball - Nod to Florida (2-1 w/ FSU)
Swept FSU in Tallahassee on 3/2 - 3/3.
Ranked ahead of FSU in both polls.
Tennis - Nod to Florida
Women are #1 in the country.
Men are #12 in the Country, beat FSU on 3/6.
Golf - Nod to Florida
Men - Ranked 3. Won Seminole Classic.
Women - Ranked 14 to FSU's 33. Finished ahead
of FSU in all 3 tournaments they
competed together.
Gymnastics - Nod to Florida
UF ranked 4th in the country.
FSU not ranked.
Soccer - Nod to Florida
Defeated FSU in only head to head match.
Swimming - Nod to Florida
Men and Women killed FSU head to head.
Women won SEC for 11th straight year.
Florida had 11 swimmenrs in Olympic trials.
Track and Field - Nod to Florida
Men killed FSU in Barnett Invitational
Women finished fourth at NCAA Indoors.
Volleyball - Nod to Florida
Beat FSU twice in only head to head matches.
Made it to East Regional Finals.
Finished in Top 10.
Subject: Re: UF vs FSU this year!B
From: afn30721@afn.org (Richard M. Hillyard)
Date: 1996/03/21
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RickW267 (rickw267@aol.com) wrote:
> Little dickie babbles:
Typical, you have to resort to name calling when you do not have an intelligent response.
> Hmmm...something that happened 25 years ago is a few years back?!? One
> incident and you give it to FSU, yet your team of misfits has law trouble
> every year since you ran Pell out of town....hmmm....
This is the only incident I mentioned. I do not have the time to drag into a message every incident involving FSU players. However, if you want, I will make the time, and we will compare known Florida incidents against known FSU incidents. It is my guess that FSU will lead in this category as well, despite the fact that we had a "50 year" head start. BTW, did Deion ever go to 2 classes in a week?
> Kind of like how happy Noles are that SOS remains head coach...you just
> got to love the best player in uf history is the only coach in uf history
> to have a losing record to FSU....
A losing record for now. FSU has peaked, we are still rising. All Florida fans are very confident that FSU's short reign of dominance in football is over.
> Oh stop, you're hurting my feelings...this is a football topic. FSU has
> accomplished more in the 50 years they have been playing the sport than
> your team of misfits have in the 80 plus years...even with FSU leading the
> series in baseball, who cares?? Since the football series record is all
> you got, it seems it is always the most important to simple gator fans
> such as yourself.
> ...will really be curious how you react when FSU takes the lead in it
> though....
#1. We are not worried about FSU ever taking the lead in the football series. It becomes a football topic when YOU want it to be. I am the one who started this thread, comparing Florida Athletics with FSU Athletics. When compared with most Division 1 schools, FSU's overall athletics program is rated very low.
> How many of these events does your mommy take you to each year? How many
> others show up for them?
Unlike FSU, Florida sells out all their football games. When you rank in the top 10 in almost every sport, you automatically have fans show up. I hope that one day, FSU can experience something near to this level of excellence.
> >>>Nor does anyone ever expect FSU to contend for the Sears
Cup<<<
> This should be idiots like little dickie, not 'anyone'...
> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ::snort:: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Typical rsponse from you when you have no answer. Think real hard now.
> Much like most of you little gators with no life who have to end each post
> with 24-13-2...
BTW. I never end my posts that way. Why state the obvious. I would rather end mine with...
Florida, winner of the FSU series in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, and soon to be
90's.
Subject: Re: UF vs FSU this year!
From: afn30721@afn.org (Richard M. Hillyard)
Date: 1996/03/21
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RickW267 (rickw267@aol.com) wrote:
> Let's compare Florida/FSU athletics
> for 1995/1996.
> Football - Nod to florida
> Although FSU already has one player in trouble with the law, uf is always
> state champs in this department...question is will Church beat his wife
> again before one of the others beat theirs...or a bar patron for that
> matter. 'Course since uf proved that stealing credit cards is only good
> for a one game suspension, this may be the craze this summer in hogtown.
If we are comparing Criminoles, I have to give the Nod back to FSU. You were many years ahead of us on this one, as FSU set the standard for playing felons during the electronics scandal of a few years back. At this time the Seminole forever became the Criminole.
> Basketball - Nod to florida
> Although FSU is not currently looking for a new head coach like the
> gators,
You are probably right and Florida fans are very happy that Kennedy looks to be locked into his position at FSU for many years to come. That makes gator fans very happy.
> Baseball - Nod to florida
> This is currently the only sport uf does not lead the series in with
> FSU...but since they actually won more than one game in Tallahassee for
> the first time in 20 years, I guess they can have it too.
Hmm, the only sport that Florida does not lead the series in. Sounds like athletic dominance to me. Of course, like football, we have a young coach who will be around for many years, so like football, the tide has turned.
> Tennis - Who cares?
> Golf - Who cares?
> Gymnastics - Who cares?
> Soccer - Who cares?
> Swimming - Who cares?
> Track & Field - Who cares?
> Volleyball - Who cares?
Noone expects FSU to ever care about any of these sports. Nor does anyone ever expect FSU to contend for the Sears Cup. While Florida finished with the 4th best athletic program in the country, FSU will fight UCF, USF, and UM for the number 2 spot in the State.
Subject: Re: UF vs FSU this year!B
From: afn30721@afn.org (Richard M. Hillyard)
Date: 1996/03/21
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Denise Gates (dgates@runner) wrote:
> In article <everhart-2003961229370001@cs1-16.mah.ptd.net>
everhart@postoffice.ptd.net writes:
> >In article <4ipe87$ti@huron.eel.ufl.edu>, afn30721@afn.org (Richard M. Hillyard) wrote:
> >
> >-Let's compare Florida/FSU athletics
> >-for 1996.
> >
> >Football - Bowl Games - Nod to FSU
> >
> >Orange Bowl - FSU beat a solid Notre Dame team.
> >
> >Fiesta Bowl - UF got pasted by 38 points by a Nebraska team that FSU beat
two times in the last four years.
> Boy, if we are so god awful then you must be really embarassed to have
> lost to us last year.
> DAG <pointing out our weakness in a year we beat you only makes you look
> weaker>
> UF '89
> FSU '91
BR>
Great point!
Subject: Re: 24-13-2 blah, blah, blah
From: afn30721@afn.org (Richard M. Hillyard)
Date: 1996/03/21
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Keith Brinkman (kbrinka@garnet.acns.fsu.edu) wrote:
> By the way, FSU's national prominence arrived far before Pell was forced to
> resign, with an undefeated regular season and number 4 finish in 1979. But
Is that why Florida won 6 straight games in the 80's over FSU.
Subject: Re: UF vs FSU this year!
From: afn30721@afn.org (Richard M. Hillyard)B
Date: 1996/03/21
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everhart@postoffice.ptd.net wrote:
> -Let's compare Florida/FSU athletics
> -for 1996.
> Orange Bowl - FSU beat a solid Notre Dame team.
A solid top 25 team. While FSU played a team that did not belong in the top 20, Florida played the best team in the country. I guess it was good for FSU that Tennessee was not part of the bowl coalition.
Subject: Re: Florida State joke probation
From: hillyard@cris.com (Rick Hillyard)
Date: 1996/03/28
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In article <4j8vsv$98j@news.fsu.edu>, mdumond@garnet.acns.fsu.edu (M. DuMond) wrote:
>Waaahhhhh!!!
>
>I'll bet your doubly pissed that FSU is appealing the probation (and
>has a decent shot of winning, FWIW). Like FSU fans have said ever
>since this happened: FSU runs a clean program and this was an isolated
>incident. No penatly is warranted, just a stern warning.
>
And OJ is innocent.
Subject: Re: UF vs FSU this year!
From: hillyard@cris.com (Rick Hillyard)
Date: 1996/03/28
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In article <31574B2F.4B6B@garnet.acns.fsu.edu>, KEB
<kbrinka@garnet.acns.fsu.edu> wrote:
>Tyndall C. Jackson wrote:
>Hey, Our women's rugby team kicks the crap out of Florida's on a regular
>basis. Guess what? *I don't care* Our dykes beat your dykes. yeah. I continue
>to not care about meaningless sports. Don't get me wrong. I am always happy
>to have successful athletics, but if they lose, I really couldn't care less.
>
>Since you are posting in this group, I assume you are as braindead for
>anything athletic (read: football) as the rest of us. Therefore, I think you
>just want to equate overall athletic success with football success. There is
>no correlation between women's tetherball (or whatever you are the supreme
>exalted rulers of) and football.
>
>The only reason you care about x sport is because you are good at it.
>
>Keith
>
Florida is good at every sport.
Subject: Re: Florida State joke probation
From: hillyard@cris.com (Rick Hillyard)
Date: 1996/03/29
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In article <4je6j3$kcq@news.fsu.edu>, mdumond@garnet.acns.fsu.edu (M. DuMond) wrote:
> While FSU never denied the shopping spree
>took place, the actions of its officials were exactly what the NCAA
>wanted, and that is why no penalties were enacted.
>
>Too bad you can't accept that.
>
>Don't worry, UF's record number of 107 NCAA violations is still
>not close to being challenged.
>
>Mike DuMond
I can accept it fine. You are the idiot that cannot accept what was handed down. Better keep your nose clean for the next 5 years.
Subject: Re: Mindspring?
From: hillyard@cris.com (Rick Hillyard)
Date: 1996/03/30
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In article <4jeca5$6oc@skipper.netrail.net>, gmd@netrail.net (G.M. Durrence) wrote:
>
>>What do you mean by $13.00/month better? You pay $35.00/mo at
>>Mindspring for unlimited access and ppp account and 5 meg of web site
>>sprace to create your on web site. What do you get at Netrail for
>>$22.00 per month? How much free software comes with Netrail when you
>>subscribe, and do they support it? Do you almost always, even during
>>high traffic times, get on Netrail within about a minute?
>
>>>Gene
>
>>Holger
>
>
>>Fly high and free beyond birthdays and across forever,
>>and we will meet now and then when we wish,
>>in the midst of the one celebration that can never end.
>
>As I said Netrail is better. I get 6 MB of FTP and Web space which is
>more than Mindspring. I can Telnet into Netrail which you can't do at
>Mindspring. I never get a busy at any time which I sometimes did at
>Mindspring. I always log in at 28.8 which I never did at Mindspring.
>I get all of the free software I need. I don't get unlimited time but
>I get 6 hours a day which is more than I ever used at Mindspring.
>
>I am still waiting for someone to tell me what Mindspring offers that
>is worth $13 a month more.
>
>Gene
Future Services gives you complete PPP plus unlimited time, and 5 mb for 17.95 a month.You can FTP, Telnet whatever as well.
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